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Two of my budgies Romeo and Ellie have recently laid 4 eggs and only 3 hatched the oldest is now 2 weeks and 5 days old. I am going to sell 2 and keep 1. I really really want to take them out now for ten minutes a day so they get used to me but the next box is to high so I can't reach them :D would the parents care if I lower the box so I can reach them. What do i do?

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Two of my budgies Romeo and Juliet have recently laid 4 eggs and only 3 hatched the oldest is now 2 weeks and 5 days old. I am going to sell 2 and keep 1. I really really want to take them out now for ten minutes a day so they get used to me but the next box is to high so I can't reach them :D would the parents care if I lower the box so I can reach them. What do i do?

I wouldnt shift the nestbox. You should never interfere with a nestbox by moving it during the raising of chicks. I would suggest you use a step ladder. :P

Cheers Karen

I totally agree with Kas. Budgies don't like change if you move it they more than likely will abandon the young :D

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Thanks Kas,

I can't use a step ladder because it is not an aviary an i cannot get inot the cage it is a metre tall and the door is towards the bottom and the box is towards the top so my arm does not reach the box.

 

thanks i'm new to breeding and new to this forum. You have been such a good help. :D

 

So should I wait until they start coming out of nest box?

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Show us a picture of your cage. Cause you need to be able to reach the nestbox to clean it out after they have finished raising their clutches

Thanks Kas,

I can't use a step ladder because it is not an aviary an i cannot get inot the cage it is a metre tall and the door is towards the bottom and the box is towards the top so my arm does not reach the box.

 

thanks i'm new to breeding and new to this forum. You have been such a good help. :D

 

So should I wait until they start coming out of nest box?

They will come out at around 4-5 weeks of age and if you handle them daily they can still be tamed at that age. You might want to look at a different way of getting at your nestbox for any future breeding as daily checking of nests is most important once chicks arrive and to clean the nestbox out also....like a hatch door to access the nest box from outside or something like that.

Welcome to our forum :P

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Unfortunately I can't at the moment but I should'nt have a problem with cleaning the nest box because after they have finished with this clutch i will be moving them into an aviary and I will be buying another pair and a cockatiel will take their place in the cage and I can clean the nesbox then.

 

I can take the lid of the next box and look inside from the outside of the cage and they are so cute!!! the oldest is getting a few blue feathers on the tail but thier father is elbino white and the mother green and yellow so I dont know where he is getting the blue from maybe his granmother and grandfather?

 

Is it possible to see what sex they are at this age?

The green must be split for blue and Albino is a blue, because the father is Albino you could get Albino hens too, actually all hens will be Albino and all cocks will be split for Albinos. :D

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The green must be split for blue and Albino is a blue, because the father is Albino you could get Albino babies too. But if any of them turn out to be normal colour and male they will be split for Albino. :D

 

Thanks splat :P

105,I hope for your sake the hen not a wet feeder.Because by the time they are ready to come out.They will be caked with gunk.I would be puting a bit of dry nesting material in the box from time to time to help keep the nest dry.

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105,I hope for your sake the hen not a wet feeder.Because by the time they are ready to come out.They will be caked with gunk.I would be puting a bit of dry nesting material in the box from time to time to help keep the nest dry.

 

I'll put some nesting material in but why? they don't use it in the wild.

some people say that you shouldn't put material in because the babies might eat it and they can't digest it and it can cause problems.

Would i be able to take the nest box out clean it out put some material in and put it back in a little bit lower?

:D

makka what does the 105 stand for?

 

thanks every1 one for the advice

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105,I hope for your sake the hen not a wet feeder.Because by the time they are ready to come out.They will be caked with gunk.I would be puting a bit of dry nesting material in the box from time to time to help keep the nest dry.

 

I'll put some nesting material in but why? they don't use it in the wild.

some people say that you shouldn't put material in because the babies might eat it and they can't digest it and it can cause problems.

Would i be able to take the nest box out clean it out put some material in and put it back in a little bit lower?

:D

makka what does the 105 stand for?

 

thanks every1 for the advice

In the wild, the budgies gnaw away at the inside wood of their chosen tree branch and would have some material in there to keep the nest drier. Mother budgies often pull some of their own chest feathers also to line the nest with. Dont worry about baby budgies eating nestbox materials as that could happen with ANYTHING they would find on the floor of their nest, whether it was wood shavings, poop, or dirt.

Macka is suggesting this for the reason that you have no easy access to the nestbox right now, which is a worry due to not being able to tell if the nest is clean, dry and the chicks havent got their little feet all gummed up with rock hard poop.

You cannot really do a comparison to the wild...as a great many baby budgies would not survive in the wild. We do ALL we can to help them make it with the knowledge and housing we have, thats all.

I think advice was earlier not to move the nestbox.

It is really good advice to be checking a nestbox daily once you have chicks, so it pays to think ahead and make the nestbox accessible before breeding begins. You will learn a lot along the way and next time these things will be easier for you to do.

Good luck :P

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You will find that daily care ( twice a day) is whats necessary once you have chicks in the nest. There are many things you need to be checking on once the eggs hatch.

Here is an article well worth reading

 

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/i...=125&artlang=en

 

Thanks kas that article was really helpfull exept I cannot do those things because i cannot reach the box! th floor is very pooy but i cant clean it out. could i take the next box out clean it inspect the babies for feet problems and beak problems, put nesting material in there and put it back in a little bit lower than what it was so i can reach it and i dont have to take it out again.

 

105,I hope for your sake the hen not a wet feeder.Because by the time they are ready to come out.They will be caked with gunk.I would be puting a bit of dry nesting material in the box from time to time to help keep the nest dry.

 

I'll put some nesting material in but why? they don't use it in the wild.

some people say that you shouldn't put material in because the babies might eat it and they can't digest it and it can cause problems.

Would i be able to take the nest box out clean it out put some material in and put it back in a little bit lower?

:D

makka what does the 105 stand for?

 

thanks every1 for the advice

In the wild, the budgies gnaw away at the inside wood of their chosen tree branch and would have some material in there to keep the nest drier. Mother budgies often pull some of their own chest feathers also to line the nest with. Dont worry about baby budgies eating nestbox materials as that could happen with ANYTHING they would find on the floor of their nest, whether it was wood shavings, poop, or dirt.

Macka is suggesting this for the reason that you have no easy access to the nestbox right now, which is a worry due to not being able to tell if the nest is clean, dry and the chicks havent got their little feet all gummed up with rock hard poop.

You cannot really do a comparison to the wild...as a great many baby budgies would not survive in the wild. We do ALL we can to help them make it with the knowledge and housing we have, thats all.

I think advice was earlier not to move the nestbox.

It is really good advice to be checking a nestbox daily once you have chicks, so it pays to think ahead and make the nestbox accessible before breeding begins. You will learn a lot along the way and next time these things will be easier for you to do.

Good luck :D

 

 

 

 

Ican take the lid off the nestbox and look inside and there is alot of poo the babies dont have splayed legs and i can't see the bottom of their feet so i can't tell if they have poo attached they are looking really healthy as far as i can tell. but i cant see inside their beaks or under their feet. :P

 

I totally agree with Kas. Budgies don't like change if you move it they more than likely will abandon the young :D

 

I dont think the parents would abandon the young because they are at such a late stage and they are such good parents. :mellow:

I've read in other threads that ppl move the birds into a new cage when they have a clutch in their box and the parents are fine with that so why wouldn't the parents be fine if i lower the nest box?

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You have received some excellent advice about not moving the nestbox, making sure it is lower next time if you do breed, checking the box daily by getting a step ladder and such.. Having your babies in poo is not healthy and they can become sick and more..... Your right they can look healthy now and you know this clutch may be fine but in the future it is always good to change your practices for the better of the chicks.

 

The members giving you this advice are experienced breeders and know what they are doing. :D. Other people may move the box and do other things and have no issues. Personally knowing the people on this board for over a year I would take their advice if I were you. You asked and they gave excellent advice.

 

You will do what you want of course. I don't want you to take offensive and if you do I am sorry. They are right though :(

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Kabe,From what I have read so far I would get that nest box out & clean it & put it in a position were you can,keep a eye on the chicks & keep it clean.

I am a bit confused about the location and positioning of the Nest box. You say you can't reach it but can lift the lid to look in but can't see the chick's feet.

 

Is it possible to take a photo so we can help you more? :(

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macca, Thankyou for your advice but from what every1 everyone else is saying i shouldn't take the next box out i might take it out but i might not i'll think about it a bit more thanks every1 everyone

 

Ellie- what every1 everyone is saying is good advice i dont take affence to what you said thankyou for telling me what you said.

 

Daz- I can reach the nest box to take the lid off but i can't reach far enough to reach the birds inside the box and clean it out i will take a photo of it now and post it. thanks

 

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I would wait until morning when it warms up and take down the box and see what condition the chicks are in. If the nes is soiled you should clean it and add some fresh wood shavings. If the chicks feet are caked with gunk you should clean the feet in warm water. If they are left to cake on for a long period, they will be crimpled. A chick can double its weight and size every few days and so it doesn't take long for damage to occur.

 

Nest boxes should be checked twice a day for dead or troubled chicks or parents.

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It's not the best thing to move the box HOWEVER one must look at what is best for the chick. It would be better if you can check them over fully and clean the box during breeding not after.

 

If you birds a tame (ish) and happy with you being around them, the cage and the box I think you should be okay with moving it for a short while and putting it back in place.

 

The first time I bred it was with my very tame female who would sit on my shoulder and a less tame male. I felt okay with moving the box (which at that point was sitting on the bottom of the cage) out to clean it and check babies. They watched me closely but didn't regect the babies afterwards.

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Thankyou everyone!

I tried taking the nest box out but couldn't so I cut a hole in the cage so i could reach the babies this morning one by one i took them out and they did have caked feet but only on the claws i was able to get it all off. They were shivering but i wrapped them in a towel and they were okay i could not clean the box but i poured a good thick layer of rolled oats on top of the poo. Babies did not have gunk stuck in their beaks or splayed legs so they are very healthy The oldest is getting a blue tail and brown wing feathers, the second oldest is looking the same and the third i think is a hen and someone said she would be fully white.I checked just before and they where fine here are some photos of them and the parents!!

 

Scroll down further the pics are there because i some problems with photo bucket. How cute are they

:):D:D:)

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Hope you like spangles (i do) the cock looks to be a double factor spangle in the blue series. Hen is obviously a spangle light green by my eyes. But i have the flu at the moment so anything's possible. :blush:

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Hope you like spangles (i do) the cock looks to be a double factor spangle in the blue series. Hen is obviously a spangle light green by my eyes. But i have the flu at the moment so anything's possible. :blush:

 

Daz- i probly will like spangles they are looking good to me but what are spangles.?

Well I see the same thing Daz :blush:

 

They all look great and the last does seem to be showing signs of being all white. If the bub as red eyes then yes it will be a hen if not it might be either sex.

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