Posted February 11, 200718 yr Well I was waiting to show you guys the eggs until they were done laying. I hope they are because they had 10! :hoh: I threw 2 out she could barely sit on them. To bad my other pair hasn't went to nest yet...or else they could have had them. This pair only had 2 last time. 2 to 10 BIG JUMP. Well here they are with thier big family! :(Laughing out loud): http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/ron07_2007/dad.jpg Here is the dad...Light Green Spangle Opaline http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/ron07_2007/eggs1.jpg Eggs, lots of em! :(Laughing out loud): http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s170/ron07_2007/eggs2.jpg closer I am keeping every spangle from them because I have none, I want to breed a "Yellow Faced Type 2 Spangle Opaline Skyblue" so they will help. This pair had a Blue baby the last time so If I get a Blue male it would be even better. Could some one explain to me the "Spangle". Someone said it was Dominant but I had a previous pair (my first ever) a "Yellow Faced Type 2 Cobalt male" and a "Lutino hen" and they gave me Yellow Faced Type 2 Skyblue Opaline Spangles....every baby was almost spangle! ****Pictures have been changed to links as they were larger than 450 by 450 requirements***** Edited February 11, 200718 yr by Bubbles
February 11, 200718 yr Spangle is dominant and I hate to tell you there is no way you could have had all spangle babies from that pairing. If you do open breeding then your hen could have mated with another bird that you had that was a spangle or if she was breed with a spangle before and she was bred back to back it could happen because she could still have the other males sperm. Another idea is that your Lutino was a Double Factor Spangle instead of a lutino but they are easy to tell the difference so I can't imagine that. Again to have spangle babies one of the parent is a visual there is no such thing as split for spangle because it is domanint and always shows up. Hope that makes sense.
February 12, 200718 yr I would think that your Lutino was a DF spangle. What colour are her eyes? If they are black with Iris rings then she is a DF spangle.
February 12, 200718 yr What do you mean by every baby was almost spangle? Unless, maybe she was a Fallow DF spangle. !!!
February 12, 200718 yr That spangle is not opaline .. sorry An opaline spangle looks like Bubbles "Crystal' They have VERY distinct markings Even MORE distinct then your light green spangles markings Kirby Edited February 12, 200718 yr by Bubbles
February 12, 200718 yr I believe she is opaline you can see the green in her shoulders and through her wings, she may be badly marked opaline. Just like all spangles are different some are very thick marks and some are not.
February 12, 200718 yr He is saying the spangle is one Lovey (Laughing out loud). Not the female if thats what your talking about? Trust me, he is NOT opaline Also, Tango (my old green spangle, that Lisachromis now has) as well as my spangle Oscar DO have those patterns, yet they are not opalines Why do you think that means they are opaline? Heres a spangled opaline... like Bubbles 'Crystal'... http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/v_spangleop1.jpg And another: http://www.gwbs.org/images/bt_s_sp_op_h.jpg Kirby Edited February 12, 200718 yr by Kirby
February 12, 200718 yr I agree, the spangle's not opaline, Blinkie and Ozzie and most of the spangles in my aviary have the body colour showing through on some of the wing markings. Unless it has the clear V shape of body colour between the shoulders it's not opaline.
February 12, 200718 yr Bea is right. As soon as people see the ground colouring in the wing they presume it's an opaline. This is not always the case. It is usualy a badly marked Spangle. This is a Spangle Opaline Grey Green Hen
February 13, 200718 yr Author okay I didn't meen to say all babies were Spangles but there were alot. One in every clutch. I also had some Yellow Faced Type 2 Resseive Pied Skyblues meaning she was split to resseive pied along with him and she was also split to blue. Anyways...first baby arrived today 2 days early
February 13, 200718 yr Just as Ino can 'hide' the opaline gene I believe it can also 'hide' the spangle gene which would explain the spangle babies from that pairing. good luck with all the bubs. Are your other pair stating to lay soon? you might be able to move the newest eggs over to them later on.
February 14, 200718 yr Author Yes they did, the other pair laid an egg so I gave them the youngest one right away. From this pair a chick hatched last night HOPE TO GOD IT IS MY SPANGLE. I'm hoping I get one tommorow on valentines day to name him or her Cupid :(Laughing out loud): Should I foster another egg or two? I don't care what I get from the other pair..I just want my spangles...I can't keep alot of birds. I am running out of room plus my cockatiels are beggining to lay. SPRING IS IN THE AIR, although its the middle of winter So I have: Pair 1: One egg and the foster Pair 2: 1 chick and 6 eggs
February 14, 200718 yr 6 is an average number for them to raise. the worry is moving the eggs over to the second pair before they have finished laying and you could end up with the same problem you started with. (too many eggs under one hen) I myself would wait although if you haven't marked the eggs you might not know which one to move later.
February 14, 200718 yr Author I marked them on the breeding card but the not eggs them self. The one I fosterd I marked...and it is fertile just starting to form. I candelled it today. I seen its heart beating. The other baby is doing well, he is full of food. I gave them some brown rice and eggs last night so maybe thats why he is so full I will have some pictures after they are all done hatching. I need to borrow teh camera and I can't borrow it every time one hatches so maybe by next friday or so they will all be hatched. Hopefully a spangle or two are in the clutch. How would I know? I read something on another post about a 3 tail thing...? Edited February 14, 200718 yr by Joey
February 16, 200718 yr Author The second chick has arrived...does anyone know the 3 tail signal for telling spangles?
February 16, 200718 yr The second chick has arrived...does anyone know the 3 tail signal for telling spangles? When they get pin feathers the two middle tail pins will be clear if spangle
February 16, 200718 yr I'll be waiting for the pictures Three bubs YAY sounds like things are going well. Karen is right with the spangle tail. In a green bird they will be yellow in a blue bird they will be white.
February 17, 200718 yr Author I could only get one picture (Laughing out loud) I hate disturbing them from a bad experience with my cockatiels. I will take a picture when they all hatch, Hopefully! This picture was on the 2nd or 3rd day. I can't remember Anyways here is the picture of the little alien.
February 20, 200718 yr Author 4th baby has arrived...a bit weak, unfortunately. He is struggling to get food over the 8, 6, and 4 day old. (Laughing out loud) I think thats how old they are. He is being fed but I'm not sure he is weak. Should I handfeed the older ones so they are full until the poor little one could get some more food?
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