Hi,

 

I am trying to understand a few things about YF violets. I'm still struggling to put things together, so apologize in advance if my questions sound silly!

 

1) Will a bird described as a YF violet necessarily appear "purplish" with a yellow face? Or, could a bird be referred to in this way -- genetically speaking -- without "showing" the violet?

 

2) Assuming the bird appears to be some shade of purple, is there one consistent expectation as to the intensity of the color, or could it be light, medium, dark? Could the tone vary from one bird to the next, say from more of a purple to more of a blue?

 

3) Would normal wing markings necessarily be expected, or could this vary as well?

 

Thanks in advance, if you can help me in sifting some of this out!

 

~~~ Kali

Edited February 4, 200718 yr by Kalimazu

1) Will a bird described as a YF violet necessarily appear "purplish" with a yellow face? Or, could a bird be referred to in this way -- genetically speaking -- without "showing" the violet? **Not all violets appear to be purplish some are a very deep blue such as my Merlin. Their cheek patches appear to be very dark blue.

 

2) Assuming the bird appears to be some shade of purple, is there one consistent expectation as to the intensity of the color, or could it be light, medium, dark? Could the tone vary from one bird to the next, say from more of a purple to more of a blue? Violet is an added color and it can appear in green birds too and not be notice, sometimes it can appear around the vent or the legs. A Skyblue can be a violet and show it around the neck and vent area it doesn't mean it darkens the color. There are different shades depending on how many dark factors your bird carrys too.

 

3) Would normal wing markings necessarily be expected, or could this vary as well? Violet doesn't change the wing marking in anyway. Wing markings can be brown, black, grey or the body color but this is not determined by the violet gene.

Lovey,

 

Thanks for helping me understand this! I had no idea that a green bird might also be able to have a violet to it.

 

A breeder I came into contact with claims to have YF violets, but he's unable to provide photos. I began wondering if what he called a YF violet might look differently than what I was picturing, or if he had birds of this type at all.

 

Thanks,

~~~ Kali

Edited February 4, 200718 yr by Kalimazu

Personally he should be able to provide pictures. Violets come in many colors from dilute, normal (such as my Merlin), to greens carrying it to sky blues. The thing about violets is that camera flashes DO wash them out at times and other times make the color more intense. So the actual photograph would give you an idea BUT it could be a cobalt and not a violet and people can enhance pictures. Know what I mean.

 

I got Merlin here from a rescue lady in IL (don't ask it was a long trip) and my husband was going that route anyways. We live in Ohio.

 

You can go to bubbles pictures she had just had a batch of YF2 violets or PM her personally she could help you with coloring.

 

My concern though is if he is not willing to provide pics I would personally be concerned it is not a scam of some sort or even someone who is odd to say the least. That is me though.

Lovey,

 

Thanks for your opinion on this. I agree about needing some photos.

 

To my understanding, YF violets in general aren't that plentiful. Maybe this is becoming less true, however.

 

~~~ Kali

Edited February 4, 200718 yr by Kalimazu

Here in the US you will not find as many different mutations and colorations as you do in AU or maybe other countries. Here in Ohio I find mostly normals, clearflight dominant pieds, recessives, I have seen maybe 1 or 2 spangles they were light greens. Not the variety that Bubbles or in fact many of the other breeders here on the boards display.

 

Hurdy lives in CA and she has been lucky enough to find a breeder that offers different type of mutations.

 

I have yet to see a violet, grey, or yellow face blue in the pet stores to be honest.

 

So if he is LEGIT it would be a great opportunity if you are looking for this mutation along with it being a healthy bird.

Would be nice to see pictures of what he describes as his YF Violets

There is only one visual violet. That is a cobalt violet. But you can get skyblue violets, mauve violets and the same in the green series.

What about the sky blue DF violets. They are visual aren't they?

I read that too sailor on the website I use

 

True violet only shows up on cobalt budgies (white-based budgies with one dark factor) or, if double factor, on sky blue budgies(white-based budgies with no dark factor). http://www.budgieplace.com/c_violet.html

 

plus if you go to this site you can also see pics of violets

Here in this topic are my Yellow face violet babies

 

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....topic=13319&hl=

Bubbles, your YF violets are gorgeous! Too bad you're so far away.

 

Here are photos the breeder sent today:

 

 

The birds are reported to be about 8 wks. of age. I think these are of two different birds, but not certain. Are their colors likely to intensify? I envisioned coloring more like that of Bubbles' adult birds.

 

~~~ Kali

Edited February 4, 200718 yr by Kalimazu

Violet is hard to get in a picture sun light and no flash helps with getting the colour close to real life.

 

She is (or they not sure like you) young the bars are still right to the cere. So the feathers will darken (more like intensify) a bit with the adult plumage.

 

Quickly putting up pictures of my flock gives the same sort of colour to the ones that violet bar Thistle (who is REALLY purple)

 

I guess you have to ask yourself can you live with out them?