I thinking about how budgie colour is actualy created(as in yellow and melanin pigments and the blue reflective layer) and I was wondering how cinnamon is created.

Could someone please explain the formation of this colour?

 

Thanks Carri

Edited January 15, 200718 yr by Bubbles

I thinking about how budgie colour is actualy created(as in yellow and melanin pigments and the blue reflective layer) and I was wondering how cinnamon is created.

Could someone please explain the formation of this colour?

 

Thanks Carri

 

I am not sure of the formation of the colour cinnamon, but here is a very good article on it.......

http://www3.sympatico.ca/davehansen/cinn.html

I don't understand what you meen liek a mutation that looks liek Cinnamon or do you want us to explain the Cinnamon gene?

Thanks nyos, thats exactly what I was looking for. But now I am thinking, if the melanin doesn't end up black can it stll project the light to create a blue layer?

 

Thanks Carri

 

Ps. Bubbles, that article looked great I will have to go back and read it more thouroghly

I have a little yellowface type 2 blue cinnamon and its blue is diluted slightly.

This question (and that article) got me thinking ... What determines how strong the cinnamon comes through? As in, some cinnamons are very dark, and can only just be distinguished from black in good light, or in contrast to another bird with black markings, while others seem to have pale soft brown markings.

 

I was wondering whether it is genetically moderated, like the blue colours (sky, cobalt etc), or if it was just chance, like how white a pied ends up.

 

The article that Karen posted mentioned this:

"There are two variants of Cinnamon. The lighter of the two is called cream wing, the other is darker and is called bronze wing. Both variants also are sex-linked."

 

and this:

"The Cinnamon breeder must also pay more attention to the colour of the markings than does the breeder of birds with black markings, because there is a much greater possibility of variation both with regards to shade and density."

 

Does anyone know any more about this? What genetically determines whether a bird is cream or bronze wing? Is it a single or double factor thing? I searched the net for cream/bronze wing but didn't find much.

 

Cheers

Joanne

I haven't read anything about explaining why the depth of colour can be different ( light or dark) so I would lean to thinking it is a random thing that accords like the patterns on pied, you can't be certain how they are going to turn out.

 

Great question

I would think someway it is genetics on how dark the coloring would be just like us. But being so specific I don't know if they have done enough research to determine if the dark or the lighter is more dominant vs even getting the color in the middle of the 2 parents. Plus you know you have those surprises both my kids are blond with blue eyes and my husband and I both have dark hair and he has brown eyes and I have green/brown (hazal eyes) - love those recessive genes.

 

Very interesting question makes you think and realize that at times we can't pull everything aparts and nature as its way of keeping secrets

Thanks for all of your thoughts!

 

It is interesting, maybe there is both a genetic component and a random component to it. Thanks Nyos, for that information on the brownwing.

 

Also, for me the link to the Avian top 50 is not working, is it just me? (Says "page not working" in firefox)

 

Cheers

Joanne