Hi,

 

My name is Josh & I am 14 years old, and I am new at breeding. I am wondering if anyone can tell me what colour my new baby male is?

 

I also have a female that I am not sure of the colours right name. I know she is a pied, but is she a double recessive?

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/jig.../piedfemale.jpg

 

Thanks,

Joshua

 

 

 

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Edited January 4, 200718 yr by Nerwen

Hnmm.....weird colored male but beautiful! Your hen is a Ressesive Pied Mauve...the one behind her is NICE! Is that the mother? Are you sure that your Pied hen is a hen? It looks Pink to me?Your male I'm not sure but I would say....Yellow Face Type 2 definitely but either a Yellow Faced Type 2 Greywing Dilute or a YellowFaced Type 2 Clearwing Dilute...I can't tell. The color is seafoam but could be skyblue. Ill let the experts help you (Laughing out loud) I'm new to genetics I'm trying to learn but I'm positive about the other one

The budgie in the first picture is a dilute yellowface type 2 sky blue.

Your second budgie is a recessive pied. To have a recessive pied you need to have two recessive pied genes in order for it to show, so a recessive pied is always a double factor.

 

Your first one is a dilute, because its body colour is also diluted

Your hen is a Ressesive Pied Mauve...the one behind her is NICE! Is that the mother? Are you sure that your Pied hen is a hen? It looks Pink to me?

 

Hi Joey,

Thanks for the info. The Albino behind the pied hen is actually a male. He's paired up with a gren pied hen, they were actually breeding yesterday. I only got the pied hen on Sunday from a breeder and was told she was a hen, so we shall see.

 

When breeding this hen, what colour cock bird would I have to have, to breed mauve?

 

Another question, I don't think I've ever seen a rainbow color, do you have any photo's of this?

 

Joshua

Hi Josh and welcome to the baords

 

Your birds look wonderful. The first one is a yellow face type 2 like Joey said and I would think Grey wing, the body color looks more diluted than normal. (clearings have a strong body color)

 

Your pied looks recessive - all recessive pied are double they need to get one rec. pied gene from each parent to show the gene. Again I agree with Joey that she is mauve. Also I wonder about the sex the cere looks very pink.

 

I like the look of the male behind is it possible to get a picture of him?

 

Sorry for repeating what Sailorwolf stated above I missed her post before. But I don't think the wing markings and tail are pale enough for a dilute that is why I stated greywing. With with pictures this gene is a bit of guess work.

Edited January 4, 200718 yr by Nerwen

To get mauve babies, with your mauve recessive pred, you should cross it with either a mauve where you will get 100% mauve or a cobalt where you will get 50% mauve and 50% cobalt. You can also cross it with the equivalent in greens. Such as a dark green split to blue and an olive split to blue.

Hi Josh and welcome to the baords

 

Your pied looks recessive - all recessive pied are double they need to get one rec. pied gene from each parent to show the gene. Again I agree with Joey that she is mauve. Also I wonder about the sex the cere looks very pink.

 

I like the look of the male behind is it possible to get a picture of him?

 

Sorry for repeating what Sailorwolf stated above I missed her post before. But I don't think the wing markings and tail are pale enough for a dilute that is why I stated greywing. With with pictures this gene is a bit of guess work.

 

Hi Nerwen,

Here are some more photo's. First of all is the Albino,

 

Then is a picture of the Pied. Hopefully you can tell more about the cere than the other photo's.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/jig...iedheadshot.jpg

 

And then one of the two together,

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/jig...1/piedwhite.jpg

 

 

Here is one of my old blue bird. What color is this? I thought he would be a sky blue spangle greywing????

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q38/jigles01/blueback.jpg

 

 

Thanks

Josh

Edited January 4, 200718 yr by Bubbles

Hi Josh, just dropped in to welcome you to the forum. Your male baby above is really beautiful.

Hi Josh, just dropped in to welcome you to the forum. Your male baby above is really beautiful.

Thanks very much feathers.

How many birds do you have , do you have any photos

 

That Albino isn't an Albino I don't think so I would say a DF Spangle...it dosen't look like it has red eyes does it? If you look closely you can also see very very faint lines on the top of its wing...albino is a pure white bird with red eys. Your little Resseive Pied looks liek a hen to me...

 

 

OMG did you breed that spangle! wow that is the MOST amazing looking spangle I have ever seen!Look at that Violet color on its neck! That is unbelievable! I would say your Spangle is a Spagle Opaline Skyblue because of that awsome color on its neck! that indicates Opaline and do you see the light v markings on its back? Opaline Spangle Skyblue.

 

Sorry to bother you again (Laughing out loud) but I need more pictures of that Spangle! What an amazing budgie! What were the parents?!? Please more pictures (Laughing out loud)

Edited January 4, 200718 yr by Joey

Joey I'm in love with the spangle like you *steals* okay I'll start up the top.

 

Thank you for the close up of the Albino. Could you confirm the red eyes? The cere is the wrong colour for a DF spangle unless this bird is also young, which the eyes don't indicate becuase of the iris ring which DEC (dark eye Clears) don't get.

 

You where right about the recessive hen Josh, sorry to question but the other photo did match a male more. The cere has blue and white around the edge. Recessive males keep a very bright and pink cere for life.

 

I think your 'old blue bird' is a Opaline spangle sky blue. The few lines that are black (on the flights) don't look grey so I don't think greywing counts.

Hi Josh, I currently house 10 budgies, 2 of which belong to my youngest daughter. I have posted photos of all of them in the "Budgie Pictures" section on this forum. I agree with Joey and Nerwen, your skyblue spangle is gorgeous.. very similar to a skyblue spangle I have, called Beau.

 

Feathers.

That Albino isn't an Albino I don't think so I would say a DF Spangle...it dosen't look like it has red eyes does it? If you look closely you can also see very very faint lines on the top of its wing...albino is a pure white bird with red eys. Your little Resseive Pied looks liek a hen to me...

 

 

OMG did you breed that spangle! wow that is the MOST amazing looking spangle I have ever seen!Look at that Violet color on its neck! That is unbelievable! I would say your Spangle is a Spagle Opaline Skyblue because of that awsome color on its neck! that indicates Opaline and do you see the light v markings on its back? Opaline Spangle Skyblue.

 

Sorry to bother you again (Laughing out loud) but I need more pictures of that Spangle! What an amazing budgie! What were the parents?!? Please more pictures (Laughing out loud)

 

Hi Joey,

Here is another shot of the Albino, and yes he does have red eyes. We didn't breed him and we got him about 12 months ago and he wasn't a baby then, but not an old bird at all. Here is a shot of his back.

 

 

We didn't breed the spangle either, but what would you guys recommend breeding him to? I will get some more photo's of him tomorrow, but here is another one that I took today.

 

Thanks

Josh

 

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Edited January 4, 200718 yr by jjg

hi hi,

Welcome.

 

You've got some amazing looking budgies there!! :dbb1: a great variation for sure.

 

I wonder if the new baby may also be opaline as I don't see bars on his head. I think he is a yellowface sky dilute instead of greywing, doesn't make much difference.

 

 

Greywing and dilute are hard to tell the difference from photos -- I think that Khepri is a greywing.

 

Looking at the cheek patches in the new pictures -- The recessive pied is grey isn't it?

Edited January 4, 200718 yr by HurdyBirdy

I would try to get another Spangle JUST like him....but you could maybe try breed him to that Ressesive Pied Mauve Im not sure what you would get....maybe Cobalts...

Hello Josh,

 

Going back to the first budgie on this thread, I too have a yellow face type II greywing sky blue, but mine is an adult.

 

Here are some pics of Neptune:

 

 

 

I do not agree that your budgie is a dilute.

 

When we are talking of grey markings we must consider that these exist:

 

- greywings (grey markings, and 50% body colour when compared to normal budgies)

 

- full body colour greywings (grey markings and full body colour)

 

- clearflight (very light markings and full body colour)

 

- dilutes (almost completely washed out markings and body colour)

 

As I said, I think your budgie has fuller colors and markings than what we would expect on a dilute. I think HurdyBirdy’s Khepri is a full body colour greywing.

hi guys i just wanted to tell you that i got some new birds a lutino and a yellow fecsd cobolt i think i will post pics asap.