Hi there,

I have this beautiful budgie, he is only young ( I believe male), but I have no idea what type of bird he is?(genetic make-up, I do know he is a budgie) originally I thought a mauve dominant pied(mainly because of the colouring around the neck), although I am swinging towards recessive as he has the colour lower down too, however the pied is so feint on him that I am wondering if he is a diluted, or a clearbody?

 

He is pure white on tail, and wings, then he has the slight colour markings on his chest, in other lights you can barely see the mauve in him, I want to make sure I get his genetics right as I want him for a breeding bird.

 

Here are two pics, he is the middle one...

 

 

I would really appreciate your comments on this great bird...

 

Thanks Andrea

 

Edited December 17, 200618 yr by Andrea

He is a cutie, and he has such a mix of colours on him. There is violet around his chest, sky-blue in the middle of his belly and cobalt around the edge.

 

I think he might have a question mark on him until you breed with him to see his offspring.

 

In the first picture I can see faint markings of spangle.

 

He could be a few things:

 

1. a double factor dominant pied, these have markings close to a recessive and not a lot of wing markings.

 

2. a single factor spangle dominant pied. Maybe with a dilute gene to lighten the marks in the wing.

 

3. A Double factor spangle with the pied gene showing slightly as suffusion. DF spangle are normally completely white (or yellow) like Ino but with black eyes which get iris rings when older and a blue cere.

 

Sorry I can’t give a full answer to his fellow but I think he is a beauty

Yes, I too thought a double factor dominant pied originally, so I will go with your number one... if this is correct, what colour budgie would you put it over?

Looks like a girl in that second to last picture.

He is stunning (looks like a he to me) and my first thought was that he was a darkeyed clear with color bleedthrough. His eyes don't look like they are red or plum. My second choice would be DF dominant pied, but I've always seen the base color of a pied on the rump, and yours has no color there...so I am back to dark-eyed clear. Or possible DF spangle.

I think becuase the suffusion is in patches and in the area found for a pied there has to be a pied gene of some sort.

Thanks guys, I am thinking double factor dominant pied at this stage, I am going to put him over a gorgeous hen (thanks Jenni) a yellow face single factor cobalt(is this right Jenni)

 

Anyhow the idea is that we should find out what he is by the offspring - so stay tuned sometime mid next year we should know.

Just curious, are the two birds next to him related? or was he a store bought one?

 

My first impression was that he's a recessive pied. Reason for that, he reminds me of Bubbles's Scooter which is a recessive pied with hardly any markings on him. but Scooter does have the tiniest bit of spangle marking though, with a patch on the tummy.

 

I'm with Rainbow... reason I thought recessive pied and not DF dom pied is because there's no body colour on the rump.

Edited December 19, 200618 yr by Cheeta

If i was pairing him for show I would pair him to a normal with very good markings It is one way to hopefully find out what he is.

Thanks Daz, the two birds with him are not related, I bought them from different avairies, and yes they do look related. One is a grey and white, yellow face recessive pied, and the other is a yellow face white and skyblue recessive pied, I think both are males - I have yet to find out... as they are both very young.

 

I don't have show birds at present, as I am more interested in genetics, after a couple of years experimenting with colour etc, I will definitely look at show quality birds, so for now I am a colour breeder...

 

Andrea

Cheeta this is why I commented on a question mark reamining on this guy until we can see one young to gain more information on him.

 

Andrea just to be sure he doesn't have a show ring on a leg?

 

a yellow face single factor cobalt(is this right Jenni)

Is this the second bird you took that you are meaning?

This one:

she is a yellowface type 2 Cobalt it is possible she has the violet gene as well. once her moult is over it will be better to tell.

He does have a show ring - what does this mean?

you might be able to track the breeder down and possibly get information on his parents and background as to what he is.

This is great news - stay tuned - I will let you know what happens..

I still haven't got around to it, is their a website where I can go get this information?

 

Thanks Andrea

No website that I have heard of. You could post it here and Daz could give you idea of which club to track down.

Andrea it could be that I know the breeder being from your area.

 

Can you read the ring number?

 

It might read something like this. PR 06 123 the 0 might be a triangle or a dash (-).

 

You might be lucky and it is PR 1G -6 123. If so I know the Breeder.