Posted December 9, 200618 yr Below is what I think my original babies are. Beau: Dominant pied, skyblue greywing spangle Dekota: Golden face skyblue spangle Keely: Mauve opaline sangle Tealah: Dark green normal Zanthie: Danish pied yellow Do you concur??
December 9, 200618 yr i dont see the pied in Beau looks like a sky blue spangle , the sky blue on Dekota looks like a dark factor blue or aqua and i can't see the mauve on Keelythe it looks like a blue others seem right. good to hear others opinions keep on posting thanks, Sco-tie
December 9, 200618 yr Author Beau is a double factor dominant pied. They don't always have banding.. The only thing that gives him away as a pied is the white patch on the back of his head. Dekota is now very green, but she was skyblue as a baby and has blue still under her wings. And the violet is hard to see in the photos, but Keely is definately a violet, not cobalt. Thanks, Sco-tie
December 9, 200618 yr Beau is not a double factor dom pied. He is a single factor. Double factors look very similar to recessive pieds.
December 9, 200618 yr here's my thought.. Beau is not a greywings, he's wing marking is way too dark. and the spot could be just a spangle spot that some spangles get, but it could verwell be a pied spot. I agree with Dakota I think Keely is a cobalt (medium blue) recessive pied, not mauve (Dark blue). I don't think she's violet as the cheek patch isn't very dark at all. I see uneven aqua on tealah, so so could be a yellowface or goldenface blue. And Zanthie, yes I agree, though I never use the term danish... I would just call them light green recessive pied. Cheers
December 9, 200618 yr Author Tealah has no blue under her wings and has been all green from before her first moult?
December 9, 200618 yr Beau: Dominant pied, skyblue greywing spangle There is some debate at the moment if the spot on the head means the bird is a dominant pied, carrying the recessive pied gene, is a different pied gene at the moment or that spangle getit and it doesn't mean pied. I also only see black markings not grey ones. Dekota: Golden face skyblue spangle Yep Keely: Mauve opaline sangle Not Mauve that is a very dark grey-blue colour. If you mean violet it's possible but to me those picture look cobalt. A photo as close to her colour could help clear it up. Tealah: Dark green normal Yep Zanthie: Danish pied yellow Yep (cheeta - Danish is the correct term for a recessive pied )
December 10, 200618 yr They are all so lovely! I can tell you for certain that Teahlah is not a green bird. I have a hen that has similar coloring. Here is my humble opinion: Beau: SF dominant pied, skyblue opaline spangle. He is not a greywing. Dekota: type 2 yellowface skyblue spangle. To me Dekota and Teahlah have the same base color. Keely: cobalt opaline spangle. The cheek patches do not look dark enough to have the violet factor. Definitely not mauve - that is a slatey-grey color. Teahlah: type 2 yellowface skyblue. Zanthie: green recessive pied.
December 10, 200618 yr Yep (cheeta - Danish is the correct term for a recessive pied ) Thanks Nerwen, though I do realised that. It's just that it can get a bit confusing when newbies to budgies genetics gets different terms for one mutation. I remember when I first started learning about budgies genetics, I would wonder about the pieds especially when people would use the term danish pied or harlequin pied. I just dont use those terms it's all when I describe the mutations... but I did agree with her in my other post.
December 10, 200618 yr Author Thank you all so much. Beau - minus the greywing part Keely - she is very definately cobalt in the lower part of her body, but she is very definately violet up close to her neck and the V between the wings is violet - which is where I got the colour mixed up (You can see that she has 2 colours in the photo of her back). Her cheek patches are also purple. It is hard to see the colour in the photos. Could she be a pied perhaps with that colouring? (I understand that mauve is much darker now.) Tealah was the only other one in question and I have never seen any blue on anywhere on this budgie, at any age, so I am going to agree with Nerwen. I still think it is a dark green normal. As for whether to call Zanthie a danish or a recessive pied, most breeders in Australia tend to refer to them as Danish, so, being an Aussie, I figured I may as well stick to that terminology. Thanks again, I very much appreciate everyone's opinions and it seems I didn't do too bad a job at classifying them.
December 10, 200618 yr Keely - no she wouldn't be a type of pied. Rainbow has a bird that is purple on top and cobalt on her belly. (although her blueberry is a pied) To be sure we need a picture as close as possible to her real colour. As to using Danish or recessive - what ever makes sence to you as long as you understand they mean the same thing.
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