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Below is what I think my original babies are.

 

 

Beau: Dominant pied, skyblue greywing spangle

 

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Dekota: Golden face skyblue spangle

 

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Keely: Mauve opaline sangle

 

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Tealah: Dark green normal

 

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Zanthie: Danish pied yellow

 

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Do you concur?? :)

i dont see the pied in Beau looks like a sky blue spangle , the sky blue on Dekota looks like a dark factor blue or aqua and i can't see the mauve on Keelythe it looks like a blue others seem right. good to hear others opinions keep on posting

thanks,

Sco-tie

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Beau is a double factor dominant pied. They don't always have banding.. The only thing that gives him away as a pied is the white patch on the back of his head.

 

Dekota is now very green, but she was skyblue as a baby and has blue still under her wings.

 

And the violet is hard to see in the photos, but Keely is definately a violet, not cobalt.

 

Thanks, Sco-tie

Beau is not a double factor dom pied. He is a single factor. Double factors look very similar to recessive pieds.

here's my thought..

 

Beau is not a greywings, he's wing marking is way too dark. and the spot could be just a spangle spot that some spangles get, but it could verwell be a pied spot.

 

I agree with Dakota

 

I think Keely is a cobalt (medium blue) recessive pied, not mauve (Dark blue). I don't think she's violet as the cheek patch isn't very dark at all.

 

 

I see uneven aqua on tealah, so so could be a yellowface or goldenface blue.

 

And Zanthie, yes I agree, though I never use the term danish... I would just call them light green recessive pied.

 

Cheers

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Tealah has no blue under her wings and has been all green from before her first moult?

 

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I am not going to type my answers but they are the same as Cheeta :)

Beau: Dominant pied, skyblue greywing spangle

There is some debate at the moment if the spot on the head means the bird is a dominant pied, carrying the recessive pied gene, is a different pied gene at the moment or that spangle getit and it doesn't mean pied.

I also only see black markings not grey ones.

 

Dekota: Golden face skyblue spangle

Yep

 

Keely: Mauve opaline sangle

Not Mauve that is a very dark grey-blue colour. If you mean violet it's possible but to me those picture look cobalt. A photo as close to her colour could help clear it up.

 

Tealah: Dark green normal

Yep

 

Zanthie: Danish pied yellow

Yep (cheeta - Danish is the correct term for a recessive pied :blink:)

They are all so lovely! I can tell you for certain that Teahlah is not a green bird. I have a hen that has similar coloring.

 

Here is my humble opinion:

 

Beau: SF dominant pied, skyblue opaline spangle. He is not a greywing.

 

Dekota: type 2 yellowface skyblue spangle. To me Dekota and Teahlah have the same base color.

 

Keely: cobalt opaline spangle. The cheek patches do not look dark enough to have the violet factor. Definitely not mauve - that is a slatey-grey color.

 

Teahlah: type 2 yellowface skyblue.

 

Zanthie: green recessive pied.

Yep (cheeta - Danish is the correct term for a recessive pied :D)

 

Thanks Nerwen, though I do realised that. It's just that it can get a bit confusing when newbies to budgies genetics gets different terms for one mutation. I remember when I first started learning about budgies genetics, I would wonder about the pieds especially when people would use the term danish pied or harlequin pied. :blink:

 

I just dont use those terms it's all when I describe the mutations... but I did agree with her in my other post. :)

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Thank you all so much.

 

Beau - minus the greywing part

 

Keely - she is very definately cobalt in the lower part of her body, but she is very definately violet up close to her neck and the V between the wings is violet - which is where I got the colour mixed up (You can see that she has 2 colours in the photo of her back). Her cheek patches are also purple. It is hard to see the colour in the photos. Could she be a pied perhaps with that colouring? (I understand that mauve is much darker now.)

 

 

Tealah was the only other one in question and I have never seen any blue on anywhere on this budgie, at any age, so I am going to agree with Nerwen. I still think it is a dark green normal.

 

As for whether to call Zanthie a danish or a recessive pied, most breeders in Australia tend to refer to them as Danish, so, being an Aussie, I figured I may as well stick to that terminology.

 

 

Thanks again, I very much appreciate everyone's opinions and it seems I didn't do too bad a job at classifying them. :blink:

Keely - no she wouldn't be a type of pied. Rainbow has a bird that is purple on top and cobalt on her belly. (although her blueberry is a pied) To be sure we need a picture as close as possible to her real colour.

 

As to using Danish or recessive - what ever makes sence to you as long as you understand they mean the same thing.

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