Posted October 2, 200618 yr Hi My name is Sunshine and I had an accident and hurt my cheek. My mummy put me in hospital and is looking after me. I am an acrobat and have been doing somersaults all day. I only sat still for a second while this picture was taken of me. Yesterday my cheek was all puffed up and my eye was closed from the swelling. Mum put some special medicine on my cheek and now look at me!!! I will be able to go back into the big aviary tomorrow, back to all my mates Anyway mum was wondering what I am? I would like to know too Am I a boy or a girl, and what mutation?
October 3, 200618 yr recessive pied Cobalt Cock from this angle :wine Hope you feel better soon. you forgot yellowface.
October 3, 200618 yr recessive pied Cobalt Cock from this angle Hope you feel better soon. you forgot yellowface. how can you tell? Recessive pied in a green base is yellow all over. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/darrylw/DSCN5189.jpg Here is a male green recessive pied in the green series. Not that he may not be yellow face but it's so hard to tell from looking. Edited October 3, 200618 yr by daz
October 3, 200618 yr recessive pied Cobalt Cock from this angle Hope you feel better soon. you forgot yellowface. how can you tell? Recessive pied in a green base is yellow all over. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/darrylw/DSCN5189.jpg Here is a male green recessive pied in the green series. Not that he may not be yellow face but it's so hard to tell from looking. Daz, you mentioned that this bird is cobalt, which means that he's gotta be a yellowface. He can't be a yellow base green bird for the blue to show through.
October 3, 200618 yr Author Geez I wish I knew what you guys were going on about heheh!! I will just agree with yous. You see his face is yellow to me heheh
October 3, 200618 yr recessive pied Cobalt Cock from this angle Hope you feel better soon. you forgot yellowface. how can you tell? Recessive pied in a green base is yellow all over. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/darrylw/DSCN5189.jpg Here is a male green recessive pied in the green series. Not that he may not be yellow face but it's so hard to tell from looking. Daz, you mentioned that this bird is cobalt, which means that he's gotta be a yellowface. He can't be a yellow base green bird for the blue to show through. Hi cheeta but to be a yellow face blue base bird the base colour will be white, the face will be yellow unless a type II which will bleed into the body not cover it. I have never seen a green base bird as this one with blue colouring. I have breed both Blue base and Green bace recessive pieds. Nerwen has one of mine but not like this bird. It would have to be green base to have a yellow body. Yellow faces only come in blue base birds such as blues, violets and greys. So as i said yes this could be a yellow face but would be hard to see it. The blue markings on a yellow body it rare as it should react and turn green. It's a special bird. To explain some of what I said. http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26/darrylw/budgies018.jpg Cobalt Recessive Pied. Dark Green Cinnamonwing Recessive Pied. Left is a Dark Green RFecessive pied the right is a Cobalt recessive pied. This one. A cobalt Recessive pied on a green base???? Edited October 3, 200618 yr by daz
October 3, 200618 yr Author So what your saying is that little sunshine is a weird but special mutation?
October 3, 200618 yr Actually Daz, a yellowface recessive pied can have yellow covering the whole body. It isn't unusual at all. A yellow base birds cannot have blue on them as they are green birds which makes them the dominant type which of course takes out the blue. So for a recessive to have yellow body and blue body colour, they are Yellowface 2. Another example of another YF2 covering the whole body is the YF2 Spangle. You won't find a YF2 spangle with half white and half yellow wings because that's all they covered. Generally where all the white would be are yellow. And yet another, the Creamino... that's a YF2 Albino... Albino suppose to have white base... if going with what you said, then a creamino should only have patches of yellow all over, but I do believe that my creamino is yellow all over. Not a white feathers in sight. Meet my Yue Liang - a creamino... Meet Blondie, she's a YF2 Recessive pied cobalt. This picture was taken awhile back. She's now a brilliant yellow with blue tummy. Edited October 3, 200618 yr by Cheeta
October 3, 200618 yr I would love to see her current photo. I couldn't imagine a yfII bleed that strong. Not say it couldn't happen but I would love to see it... I just had a look at the first photo. Is there patches of white through the yellow because your two birds are blue base. You can see the white showing through. On my monitor the recessive pied, in question, looks a full colour yellow with the blue patch .. but is there white on that bird? Edited October 3, 200618 yr by daz
October 3, 200618 yr Hahaha, yeah, She didn't like me with the camera too much.. hehehe.. Her back... She didn't like me too much waking her up, so she's trying to move as far away from as possible!! Her front... Keep in mind that I took this photo about one foot away with flash, so the yellow in the middle of the chest is a bit washed out. sorry about that.. hehe...This is her waking up before chucking a sulk and hopped away... I just had a look at the first photo. Is there patches of white through the yellow because your two birds are blue base. You can see the white showing through. On my monitor the recessive pied, in question, looks a full colour yellow with the blue patch .. but is there white on that bird? When I first got Yue Liang, my creamino, she's a 'corn' yellow... a lot like Blondie in that first of her taken awhile back before she molted... The picture you see of Yue Liang is while she's molting... The really yellow patch that you see were the new feathers coming through. She is now a yellow that can take on the Lutino. The only different is that she's got that blue tinge on her feathers that only an albino has, not the lutino. Oh and no there's no white on any of the two birds I have showed you so far. Edited October 3, 200618 yr by Cheeta
October 4, 200618 yr Hey everyone! I must confess that I struggled a little to understand what was going on here… but as some of you know, I’m a big fan of research, so I went around a few sites and got some links to photos on public domain (there isn’t much written about YellowFace Pieds), some even belonging to members of this forum…. I think! So here goes nothing… if I’m not mistaken a recessive pied cobalt should look like this: RPC When we refer to a cobalt we are talking of a blue budgie, if on top of that he is a pied, what we expect to find is a variegated white and blue budgie, right? So either my monitor is throwing me off or CheekyChucky’s budgie is clearly yellow and blue. I agree whit Dingo on the fact that the budgie in question must be a Yellowface cobalt recessive pied, more, he must be a Yellowface type II Cobalt recessive pied, because of the extension of the yellow on his body. Yellowface type II pied have been talked about on this forum before: 8509 I have found some more pics like these next ones, that made me conclude that, sometimes the yellow doesn’t seem to cover all of the white, but in fact it does, although very lightly, leaving the impression of a cream colour: 1 2 3 Just like it happens in some Yellowface albino’s (also known as creamino): Creamino It is even possible to have a Yellowface blue clearflight pied, like this next one: clearf1 clearf2 clearf3 clearf4 clearf5 clearf6 clearf7 Or a Yellowface blue spangle pied: spangle1 spangle2 But sometimes, instead of that “light” version, where the budgie looks a cream colour, the yellow really stands out throw all the areas that should be white, just like this next exemple (and CheekyChucky’s budgie): deep yellow Could it be that the cream type is the Yellowface blue pied, and the other one that presents the deeper yellow colour is the Goldenface blue pied? That would make CheekyChucky’s budgie a Goldenface type II Cobalt recessive pied... is this possible? Well, this ends my expose and I may well be wrong about all of this… it has happened before! I’m not infallible, and I’ve never met anyone ho is… I can tell you that if anyone comes around a forum giving the impression of being all knowing and the sole owner of the absolute thruth about all things…. That person will certainly not have my trust.
October 4, 200618 yr Author I didn't breed this little guy. I got him from a friend who did and i know that the father was a bright yellow and bright green, like the bird in one of daz's pics. The mother was in the nest and i didn't see her. I have 2 more just like him.
October 4, 200618 yr I’ve just realised that part of my prior post could be misinterpreted. My concern is about this part: “I’m not infallible, and I’ve never met anyone ho is… I can tell you that if anyone comes around a forum giving the impression of being all knowing and the sole owner of the absolute truth about all things…. That person will certainly not have my trust.” I wasn’t making any criticism on anyone in this forum or thread, by the contrary; I meant to say that we shouldn’t think less of anyone because of a mistaken opinion. Budgies are a complex theme, so no one is able to know everything about every variety, that’s exactly what justifies the existence of the forum… sooner or later everyone has doubts, when we think together we get to better conclusions then we would on our own. Enough about that. I’d really like to know what Daz and Cheeta think about my analysis.
October 4, 200618 yr He is a yellowface type 2 cobalt. He could be a goldenface, I'm not sure with recessives if they should have the blue belly turn green as well. There is another thing that can brighten the yellow colour: the violet gene. I can't see the cheek spots to see if they are a very dark blue or not. my goldenface (dominant) pied has green all over:
October 4, 200618 yr Hi Guys, My YFII is wayyyyyy darker than any of these. The green on his chest is dark and the blue on his belly is darker than cobalt. His wings are marked with yellow, but his down is all white. I will try to get a good picture as soon as the sun comes out again as the flash doesn't show how dark he really is. Maybe a dark violet YFII?? Shell Edited October 4, 200618 yr by Shellball
October 4, 200618 yr Hey Nerwen! Could your budgie be a goldenface green (dominant) pied? I’ve read somewhere that it is possible for the goldenface and yellowface to exist in the green/yellow series… I think.
October 4, 200618 yr goldenfaces look like a green bird but they still are a blue lined bird. This is this the mother: looking close you can still see a mix of blue with the now green body.
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