okay after much reading i have decided to pair up my budgies, i have a male (hutch he's an olive factor and sally who is a normal green) but hes only 15 months and sally is over two who i assume is in condition being her cere is the crusty brown colour. is hutch old enough?

reason I'm asking I've read that they must be over a yr which i understand but then i read for healthier and larger babes they must be over the age of two, does this pertain to both males and females or just the females?

Edited September 21, 200618 yr by candacelast

Aren't your budgies rescues?

apparently you didnt read my other posting, and if i knew how to insert it i would,

 

 

 

Aren't your budgies rescues?

You're right, I didn't see it. I'm not able to read every post here so I usually just skim over the newest ones every morning.

personally i find reading the post before i reply to something helps not to step on someones toes,

 

now back to my question ...is he old enough?

 

 

 

You're right, I didn't see it. I'm not able to read every post here so I usually just skim over the newest ones every morning.

He's old enough to breed, though I would do a lot of research before getting into it. A lot can go wrong that needs to be prepared for.

 

I have to say, it saddens and confuses me to see someone involved in rescue turn to breeding. Kind of defeats the purpose, eh? Those were a few more spaces and a little more vet care that could've been taken up by neglected and abused budgies.

 

Obviously, it's your prerogative but I hope you think long and hard before getting started. And again, do tons of research so that you're not caught by surprise with an emergency that you're not sure how to handle.

 

**For the record, I did read your post, just not that particular one. And all you had to do was say "no, these aren't rescue budgies." All I did was ask a simple question to clarify. I honestly doubt that anyone here reads EVERY single post from every single person just to try and keep tabs on things. On top of that, I have the memory of a 205-year-old. :budgiedance:**

Edited September 21, 200618 yr by eterri

I live on a 50 acre farm with plenty of room for rescues and non, any bird i'm going to breed will be staying here on the farm, I realize that there are many complications that can happen when it comes to breeding, BUT, as far as being surprised or something happening that I cant handle?? Kinda like rescuing a bird with 1 wing? a dog that only has 2 legs? or my budgie baby that only has half a beak....unfortunatly...not much can surprise me, as for vet care fortunatly for me and all my little animal friends i have a family member who is a vet and just so happens to be staying with us to help with the animals.... anyways...I'm really not sure why i have to explain my life story when all i wanted to know is, is he old enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He's old enough to breed, though I would do a lot of research before getting into it. A lot can go wrong that needs to be prepared for.

 

I have to say, it saddens and confuses me to see someone involved in rescue turn to breeding. Kind of defeats the purpose, eh? Those were a few more spaces and a little more vet care that could've been taken up by neglected and abused budgies.

 

Obviously, it's your prerogative but I hope you think long and hard before getting started. And again, do tons of research so that you're not caught by surprise with an emergency that you're not sure how to handle.

 

**For the record, I did read your post, just not that particular one. And all you had to do was say "no, these aren't rescue budgies." All I did was ask a simple question to clarify. I honestly doubt that anyone here reads EVERY single post from every single person just to try and keep tabs on things. On top of that, I have the memory of a 205-year-old. :budgiedance:**

You didn't have to explain anything, I'm pretty easy to ignore. I was just curious, as it's unusual to see someone in rescue advocating breeding, let alone doing it themselves. If I ever ask something you don't feel like answering, just don't answer. I'm not going to try to pester it out of you or anything.

i understand, but when you ask these questions it makes other members start questioning whether they post it or not, so their fopr i pretty much have to answer to apease everyone...as this has happened between you and i before.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You didn't have to explain anything, I'm pretty easy to ignore. I was just curious, as it's unusual to see someone in rescue advocating breeding, let alone doing it themselves. If I ever ask something you don't feel like answering, just don't answer. I'm not going to try to pester it out of you or anything.

Wow how lucky are you having a vet living on site - I could sure do with some of that right now!

it certainly does help, this way i can keep vet cost down and only pay for meds that are neededr special formulas (dont get me wrong still pretty expensive), but my brother loves animals as much as i do, and it helps to have him here when a new rescue comes in, Only major problem we have is when an animal is to far gone that its best to be put to sleep that to is done here, but at least there is plenty of room for a "pet cemetery",

 

 

 

Wow how lucky are you having a vet living on site - I could sure do with some of that right now!

I live on a 50 acre farm with plenty of room for rescues and non, any bird i'm going to breed will be staying here on the farm, I realize that there are many complications that can happen when it comes to breeding, BUT, as far as being surprised or something happening that I cant handle?? Kinda like rescuing a bird with 1 wing? a dog that only has 2 legs? or my budgie baby that only has half a beak....unfortunatly...not much can surprise me, as for vet care fortunatly for me and all my little animal friends i have a family member who is a vet and just so happens to be staying with us to help with the animals.... anyways...I'm really not sure why i have to explain my life story when all i wanted to know is, is he old enough.

 

He's old enough to breed, though I would do a lot of research before getting into it. A lot can go wrong that needs to be prepared for.

 

I have to say, it saddens and confuses me to see someone involved in rescue turn to breeding. Kind of defeats the purpose, eh? Those were a few more spaces and a little more vet care that could've been taken up by neglected and abused budgies.

 

Obviously, it's your prerogative but I hope you think long and hard before getting started. And again, do tons of research so that you're not caught by surprise with an emergency that you're not sure how to handle.

 

**For the record, I did read your post, just not that particular one. And all you had to do was say "no, these aren't rescue budgies." All I did was ask a simple question to clarify. I honestly doubt that anyone here reads EVERY single post from every single person just to try and keep tabs on things. On top of that, I have the memory of a 205-year-old. **

 

Sure sounds like a wonderful place to raise some budgies that you've bred yourself. I see nothing wrong with breeding your own budgies (be they petstore, breeder or rescue budgies), as long as you have plans for the babies. I wish I had that much room to do stuff like that. I'd probably have a zoo! Oh wait... I do!

:budgiedance:

 

At any rate Candace, good luck with the birds.

Well, if it's all true it's a wonderful thing (aside from Canada being extremely chilly to be keeping outdoor aviaries). But history tends to repeat itself...and that's all I've got to say about that.

 

I wish you luck with your rescue endeavors, Candace, and hope that you're able to continue juggling many many many rescue animals, pets, and now breeding without the help of a volunteer staff or designated building.

man do you talk like this just to tick people off?

again, I'm not explaining my life all over, but with out know the facts of how i run my farm and what buildings, enclosers i have for my animals.... how can you say anything about it....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, if it's all true it's a wonderful thing (aside from Canada being extremely chilly to be keeping outdoor aviaries). But history tends to repeat itself...and that's all I've got to say about that.

 

I wish you luck with your rescue endeavors, Candace, and hope that you're able to continue juggling many many many rescue animals, pets, and now breeding without the help of a volunteer staff or designated building.

okay after much reading i have decided to pair up my budgies, i have a male (hutch he's an olive factor and sally who is a normal green) but hes only 15 months and sally is over two who i assume is in condition being her cere is the crusty brown colour. is hutch old enough?

reason I'm asking I've read that they must be over a yr which i understand but then i read for healthier and larger babes they must be over the age of two, does this pertain to both males and females or just the females?

 

The rest of this has been sorted ( I believe) so I will return to the question

 

Most breeders set they birds up from the age of one year with out a hassle, some like 18 months more, but I haven't heard about giving larger babies becuase of the parents age. The size just like colours depend on the genetics of the parents, two small 'pet' type birds are not going to produce a 'show' budgie size kids.

 

So yes your male is old enough.

great Nerwen thank-you!

 

correct me if i'm wrong PLEASE still trying to figure this out, if i match a normal green to an olive factor all babies will be green only right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

okay after much reading i have decided to pair up my budgies, i have a male (hutch he's an olive factor and sally who is a normal green) but hes only 15 months and sally is over two who i assume is in condition being her cere is the crusty brown colour. is hutch old enough?

reason I'm asking I've read that they must be over a yr which i understand but then i read for healthier and larger babes they must be over the age of two, does this pertain to both males and females or just the females?

 

The rest of this has been sorted ( I believe) so I will return to the question

 

Most breeders set they birds up from the age of one year with out a hassle, some like 18 months more, but I haven't heard about giving larger babies becuase of the parents age. The size just like colours depend on the genetics of the parents, two small 'pet' type birds are not going to produce a 'show' budgie size kids.

 

So yes your male is old enough.

Olive is a green based bird with two dark factors. The babies can end up with one dark factor (to look like the normal green) or two (look like dad/olive) so you will get a mix.

am i right in saying hutch is an olive factor or is he more grey? his tail feathers have black colouring

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Olive is a green based bird with two dark factors. The babies can end up with one dark factor (to look like the normal green) or two (look like dad/olive) so you will get a mix.

ahh a black tail feather and a grey-blue cheek patch are signs of a grey-green. In this case 50% of the babies will get the green gene and appear like a normal green and the other 50% will get the grey gene matched with mums green gene they will look like dad.

 

He also looks opaline, the body colour on the wings, which means his daughters will be opaline as well.

great Nerwen thank-you!

 

correct me if i'm wrong PLEASE still trying to figure this out, if i match a normal green to an olive factor all babies will be green only right?

 

 

Don't forget the single factor dark factor that will give Dark Green

 

No Factor = green

1 dark factor = Dark green

2 Dark factor = Olive

I keep thinking of dark green as normal and one with no factors as light green.