Ummm just keep in mind not to use scented baby oil.

im using the vasoline right now on him. all my other birds look fine right now il be keeping a close eye on them.

keep us updated, if you see it worsening I would go to the vet, the home remedies are wonderful if they are proven to work but when we procastate at times a $20.00 trip turns to a $200 trip instead.

I agree with Sailorwolf and Lovey, rather than try a home remedy, and considering all the birds you have, I would either go for a systemic injection or vet approved treatment. Better safe than sorry. :greenb:

i would NEVER let it get that far i know i will go to the vet if it gets worse like i said above i cant even see how people let it get that bad in the first place ( all the pictures i've seen of it) if this doesnt look like its working were off to the vets. ive called a few places and asked if it spread outside of budgies to other species of birds and most of them said no and the others had no clue what i was talking about .... the other budgies look perfectly fine, Snows molting thats about it, Birdie doesnt look pathetic so im pretty sure everyone else in there is fine too.

 

Wheres everyone comming up with the 20$ vet trip we cant seem to leave any vets office with out a 100$ vet bill

 

 

 

UPDATE

 

Well ... were going to the vets on monday. 48$ + the 12$ injection + another injection 2 weeks later and then more injections if we think the other birds need it. Im never going to hear the end of this from my mom, I owe her my first born.

Edited May 26, 200618 yr by BrokenDreamz

I think that is a very wise decision BrokenDreamz, it will clear up very quickly with the shot and hopefully only 2 injections will be needed (and Monty's feet were quite bad, had to wrap bandages around the perches so he could cling to them.) Good Luck! (And under $100).

yeah right (Laughing out loud)... knowing my luck i will end up having to take all the other birds in and watch that be another 48 per bird plus 2 injections times 9 birds.... there goes my second born child :mellow:

Just a thought but summer is coming and you can get a part time job!

yeah i wish but everywheres i want to work has a minimum age of 16 and i was born late december so while mos tof my friends get summer jobs or jobs right now my parents are sending me to summer camp instead so i couldnt have gotten a job anywayse as most would require you to NOT miss 2 weeks ( but hey Leader In Training program at a horse camp will look good on the resume ) But i know once i get the job half the money will go to the car i want and the other half is for the birds and the annoyingly expensive vet bills

 

i find the lack of choice of vets around here kind of sad i called the vets you told me about and i also called eagle ridge vets. i said i have a budgie with scaley face whats the treatment and cost like for it. I got a definate answer from the one saying we will do this and this for this much and im like okay then i called eagle ridge and they put me on hold 3 times, said well your bird will need a check up so we know what he has and thats 49.50... okay i didnt just tell you what i know he had.... she had to run off and ask about that then i asked well whats the treatment you do for it... she had to run off and ask about that... and i still didnt get a proper answer... then i asked the price... she had to run off about that and i didnt get an answer but i was told i should make an appointment with her i kind of liked the sound of her voice when i said Uh NO. Eagle ridge is where i have been going, i didnt get proper answers when i brought Buddy in, and they still havnt told me what was wrong with ducky.

 

so thanks for the number of the one you go to, just a phone call and im allready satisfied that they know what their doing.

Yes, she is very good and even if she isn't there that day, she always gets knowlegable vets to cover her, one even worked at the San Diego zoo once I believe. Have fun at camp, and you will feel better knowing Spaz is getting treatment. (as will everybody reading this)

 

Oh, and people even come from downtown to see her, there is a appalling lack of avian vets, good on Sailorwolf for pursuing this as a career.

Edited May 27, 200618 yr by Phoebe

my idea of getting out of all of this was to become a vet, then my councoler told me i cant because of my marks in math. then i got denied from joining science co-op the way its working right now.. we get punished if our teachers can teach because we dont put faith in them...... My principal didnt like what i had to say about that but im still trying to go for it if i ever stop failing math

 

But back to the budgie

I know my dad will have a fit if he finds out were going to the vets " over a little 10$ bird "

SO if a budgie has had scaley face can they still breed? Because i think it would be absolutley amazing if my spaz were to have chicks that looked as pretty as him.

 

but my thing is still the other birds im worried they will all end up getting it then spaz will be cured.. they will have it.. and then they will give it back to him i should have just stuck with 1 bird

Spaz will still be able to breed, all the other birds will be fine and you can get a math tutor (or a study buddy), all will be well! (and I think we are the only people alive on this forum........)

I've never heard of injections for scaley face. You should ask your vet about ivermectin because seeing as you're needing to treat all your birds it'll work out cheaper and it works perfectly.

Bea, the injections are just wonderful as they enter the bloodstream of the bird and quickly erradicate all areas of scaley mite (just like an antibiotic) so one is not repeatedly dabbing the affected areas with curative solutions, surprised that the vets don't do it there? :book:

i wanted to look into getting something like scatt or as i beleive daz said, Baby oil to help prevent my other birds from catching it right now.

 

It was just to much of a fight with spaz and the vasoline, and he looked so pathetic after i did it, and hes a pain to catch and hold ontoeven with out the skin peircing biting

:ausb: Bea, the injections are just wonderful as they enter the bloodstream of the bird and quickly erradicate all areas of scaley mite (just like an antibiotic) so one is not repeatedly dabbing the affected areas with curative solutions, surprised that the vets don't do it there? :book:

Ivermectin is great though cause it's a one off treatment. One drop between the wings and it clears up super fast. Surely that's less stress than a needle?

Mine had a spot-on treatment as well. It is actually systemic, perhaps not quite as instantaneous as the iinjection but still fast and effective. I don't know if you have dogs or cats, but it works the same as the spot-on treatment you get for fleas. Just a dab between shoulder blades/wings and it gets round the whole system. It gets in the blood somehow i think. I'm not sure how but it does work.

Just like I said also in a previous posting on this topic

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I got a scaly face treatment from our avian vet (also sold over the counter at the vets )....it is invermectin in a dropper container ....cost us $9. You put a drop between the "shoulder blades" or top of wings on the back ....one drop per average bird. Once only treatment in most cases. You would expect to see great improvement in 2 wks. I treat all incoming birds as a matter of course "just in case" . It is simple effective and doesn't give you the hassle of trying to put something on the face of a struggling, or stressed bird, that may or may not like being caught and messed with. Most products from petshops aren't as good. This is a similar product to one called SCAT which is same thing and available I think on the internet. The only side effect was that the birds feel a little sleepy for a few minutes and then are fine.

 

The spot on treatment is vet recommended, sold by vets and works. Why put a budgie through the trauma of an injection ? Baby oil ( not scented ) and vaseline is all well and good for birds that are easily caught and held for treatments. But a once only spot on treatment must surely be less traumatic all round for the bird. I have never had to treat twice this way. Scaly face treated quickly and gone. I was a vet nurse for many years and would far prefer this method than an injection anyday.

Your right it is more then 20.00 just to say boo at the animal :ausb: I was just throwing numbers, good luck I know you love your birdies

yep, I'm a big fan of the invermectin spot on treatment as well. I used to to treat the birds when I first noticed the little tunnel the mite makes, and you can see it pretty soon ( a day or two) that it's working as the tunnels stopped 'growing'...

 

It works the same as the flea treatment where the chemicals for the treatment is absorbed into the bloodstream when it's on the skin. It'll last for at least six weeks. If you're still not happy with the results , you can always repeat it. I've had a repeat bout of scaley, but that's because I didn't give them enough of the treatment as that budgie is a tad bigger than you average budgies.. actually almost twice the size, but just under, so I should have had two drops. But anyway, it's working and I don't have to worry about scaley face with this treatment.

I just LOVED that dab on flea stuff when I had a dog, he never had fleas again since the product was introduced. Don't know why my vet does the injection and doesn't offer the other treatment, maybe she has tried the other method and shots are her preference? BrokenDreamz should ask, all I know is that it worked really fast. :ausb:

all i know about those one spot whatever treatmens is then when we got it at the vets for the dogs for flea prevention i went on for about an hour on how i didnt beleive it could work. that was the only time we used it but then again weve NEVER had a flea problem with any of the dogs or cat. id trust the injection to work more but im definatly asking about the other treatment, just because taking 9 birds to a vets office is only giving my mother a reason to keep my second born child aswell

 

For y Spaz id say a needle is about as hard as a little dab. the way he fights being held and squirms to bits, and especially for me trying to put anything on him especially his back would be one heck of a fight, i can see a little injection being loads easier as he will stay still longer when you blow aorund his feathers on his belly. :ausb:

 

I should have just stuck with 1 bird My Gibbled Buddy boy.

Don't worry, everything will be FINE!!! :ausb:

I think you should go for the drop treatment. Because birds have thin skin, whihc can tear easily, and if your bird is a struggler it will probably be quite hard to do an injection. When I got my treatment, the vet gave me ear mite medicine, which cleared up perfectly in 1 month. And I had to do it on a really untame bird (I had just brought her home 2 weeks beforehand). When you apply the ointment, drop or what ever, you can restrain your budgie by swaddling it in a towel or blanket.

Okay i asked the vet about the one drop treatment and she said she they didnt have it, they did however have oral drops but she would have to see each bird before it was given to them. and im not going to go to some petstore and just buy drops like that i wouldnt trust them.

Spaz did fine at the vets today he loved the car ride there and he didnt squirm a bit while he was being examined and was the calmest ive ever seen him for the injection. i should be seeing results of this clearing up in a few days were going back on the 10th for our second injection to make sure my spazzys all cleared up.