hiyas :nest:

 

Pardon my curiousity, I've been reading alot about all the different mutations and colour combinations.

 

I can't get a proper picture of Stitch's true colours but he looks like an identical twin of Budgiebird's Casper Photo the only differences are he has pink feet, only two black spots on his cheeks (as well as the blue one) and right at the back where Casper's feathers you can see his wing feathers on Stitch it goes from the blue to a darker blue and then to black on the end of his tail feather.

 

He also has more of those patches of bright grass green just above his feet. When we first got him he had a spot on the back of his head but not a normal looking spot. Most of his wing feathers have an edge of yellow (that's what makes him a normal wing right?) but on the spot he had the edges of those feathers were blue. This spot has all but disappeared in his last moult.

 

So my question is, do the patches of green make him a pied or will they just grow out as he gets older?

 

 

Thanks

 

Mandie

Edited May 22, 200619 yr by daz

the pied mutation has nothing to do with the coloring it has to do with the patterns of the coloring. There are different types of pieds. The link I went to takes me not to Caspers picture? Do you have a picture you can post of your own bird? Example- Pretty in my siggy is a recessive pied and there can be different colors of recessives pieds, he is s sky blue. They can range from sky blues, to violets, cobalts etc... or there are also the pieds that are yellow/green. I hope this isn't more confusing.

Hi Lovey!

 

The pictures I take of him turn out like this Stitch but that shows like bright green (on my monitor anyway and he's nowhere near that colour really).

 

His colour looks like this Casper or like the middle budgie in Nerwen's Sig here

 

More like Casper though, he has those same patches of green between the yellow and the blue .. or is that what all yellowfaced blues end up with?

 

The pied patches are they only wing colourings or all over?

 

Thanks for replying

He would be a yellowfaced type 2 this is where they yellowface bleeds

into the body of the blue color making it look green in different areas. A yellowface type 1 is where a blue based bird has just yellow on the face.

 

Does your Stitch have the pied spot on the back of his head? If not he would be a yellowfaced type 2 blue.

 

Go to this website it is awesome for explanation of mutation read over the pied mutation there are different types. Merlin in my signature is a dominant pied because he does have a white patch on the back of his head. But if I didn't tell you in the picture in my siggy he looks like a normal Pretty is a recessive pied. http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html

 

Also to get the best pictures take them without a flash and in the daylight or even better in the sunlight. Merlin looks like a deep blue with a flash and without a flash he looks more true to his color a violet. Same with Pretty the flash makes his blue look green vs a sky blue. You will see a difference.

wow that's an excellent page - thanks!

 

Yep the picture on that page of the type 2 looks exactly the same colour as Stitch, he's probably not quite finished his first moult yet so it might end up that blue-green colour all over.

 

I'm still working on the picture thing, he's just starting to get brave with strange things like cups, car keys and keyboards! but hats, sunglasses and cameras are still on the list of things we fly away from.

 

Plus the fact that it's been horribly overcast the last few days (come to Sunny Queensland the ads say - ha!).

 

 

 

But we're working on it (Laughing out loud)

 

Thanks for the help

Recessive Pied

 

Dominant Pied

thanks Daz! and thanks for fixing that first link for me too

 

love your page by the way!

So Mandie, does he have the pied spot on the back of his head, or is Stitch a normal?

he doesn't have a white spot there, but he does have some strange coloured feathers in a patch sort of at the back to one side and in the middle of his wings where the edges of the feathers are blue instead of yellow

get a picture without a flash if you can , that would help out for sure.

I snuck up behind him while he was complaining to my hubby about the mean things I was doin to him to get him to sit still and have his picture taken ....

 

 

 

 

The flash still went off but I think you can still see what I mean .. in the very centre the edges of the wing feathers are blue (brighter blue than in the picture they look green) .. and in the very top of the picture you can just see the few different coloured feathers there, it's a weird patch of blue tipped feathers in amongst the yellow tipped ones.

 

In a side note in this picture you can see the feathers on the right are where his clipped wing is growing back and there's usually one or two that are sort of sticking up / twisted .. I'm guessing as more grow in they'll straighten themselves out?

Edited May 24, 200619 yr by Mandie

Looks like a normal Yellow face type 2 budgie to me

Yep I agree with Karen, he isn't a pied he would have to have the pied spot on his head to be a pied.

 

Yellowface Type 2

Yep I was happy with the yellowface type 2 verdict when you first posted that webpage link Lovey.

 

When I was reading the info on here about the different varieties I didnt see the info about type 2s and it makes more sense that hes that than a pied.

No he is not a pied. I have a yellowface type 2 just like him, his blue even runs into the wing and back feathers like that too. The green spots are just areas, where the yellow is intensified, all YellowfaceII are like this. You can not get a pied budgie that has both blue and green spots. You can, but it is very rare. It is a congenital thing and is when an egg originally contained twins, one blue and one green, but one twin reabsorbed another when they were just a ball of cells, so the green patches on the budgie will have different DNA to the blue patches. The green and blue are very bright and there is a definate line between them. It is called tetragametic chimerism.

Here is a site with picture http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_co....html#halfsider

 

Your budge is not this,

Your budgie is a yellowface type 2.

Edited May 25, 200619 yr by Sailorwolf