Daz

Hi Phill, with colony breeding it's always best to have twice as many boxes as there are hens. I lessens the risk of problems.

Feathers how are they going now?

Looks like a well fed chick to me. I wouldn't worry about that one Neat it's doing good.

I'm scared of heights... geess it's a long way down...

Allen you should add that website to your profile. So everyone can see it.

It looks like we will run out of water by next christmas.

There is still evidance of banding on the male. I think you could be right Nerwen, they could be about 3 months old.

How is he going today.

Great news Neat hope all goes well

thats gratitude for you

The Matrix Many Birds are more than one variety, eg opaline cinnamons, greywing pied, opaline spangle etc. The matrix determins in which class these birds are to be shown. The Matrix as found in the Australian Standard is as follows: Section 1. Normal Green - No Groups 2. Normal Blue - No Groups 3.Black eyed Self - No Groups 4. Red Eyed Self - No Groups 5. Clearwing - No Groups 6. Greywing - No Groups 7. Cinnamonwing - No Groups 8. Spangle Double Factor - No Groups 9. Opaline - 3. Black eyed Self, 5. Clearwing, 6. Greywing, 7. Cinnamonwing 10. Clearwing - 9. Opaline 11. Lacewing - 9. Opaline 12. Fallow - 6. Greywing, 9. Opaline 13. Yellow Face Blue - 3 Black eyed self, 4. Red eyed self, 5. Clearwing, 6. Greywing, 7. Cinnamonwing, 8. Spangle Double Factor, 9. Opaline, 10 Clearbody, 11. Lacewing, 12. Fallow 14. Spangle - 6. Greywing, 7. Cinnamonwing, 9. Opaline, 12. Fallow, 13. Yellow Face Blue 15. Dominant Pied - 6. Greywing, 7. Cinnamonwing, 9. Opaline, 12. Fallow, 13. Yellow Face Blue, 14. Spangle 16. Recessive Pied - 6. Greywing, 7. Cinnamonwing, 9. Opaline, 12. Fallow, 13. Yellow Face Blue, 14. Spangle 17. Any other standard variety (AOSV) 18. Crested - Recognised in every above variety (1 - 17) How to use the matrix. For combinations of more than two varieties to be accepted as standard, every combination of the varieties involved must appear in the groups. Standard primary variety numbers 9 - 18 may combine with any number of its group variety, but remians the primary variety for exhibition purposes. The largest number listed in the section or group is always the primary variety. For example, Opaline (9) is grouped with Black eyed self (3), Clearwing (5), Greywing (6) and Cinnamonwing (7). The largest number in the group is 9 so these birds are shown as opalines. In very simple terms, a bird that has multiple varieties is shown in the variety class in the left hand list above, provided all varieties in that bird appear in the list to the right hand side. Examples 1. A cobalt opaline yellowface dominant pied is shown as a dominant pied because both opaline and yellowface are listed against dominant pied. If you look at the opaline list, neither dominant pied or yellowface are listed there, so it cannot be shown in the opaline class. If you look at the yellowface list, opaline appears there but dominant pied does not. As all varieties in that bird are not on the yellowface list, then this bird cannot be shown in the yellowface class. 2. A light green fallow greywing is shown as a fallow because greywing is listed under the fallow variety in the matrix and fallow is not listed under greywing. 3. A grey opaline black eyed self is shown as an opaline because black eyed self is listed under the opaline variety in the matrix and the black eyed self class does not recognise any combinations. 4. A light green cinnamon opaline is shown as an opaline because cinnamon is listed in the opaline group. Opaline is not listed in the cinnamon group. Correct Discription of Birds The bird is described by it's primary variety followed by secondary varieties followed by colour. In the examples above: 1. Dominant pied opaline yellowface cobalt 2. Fallow greywing light green 3. Opaline black eyed self grey 4. Opaline cinnamon light green. I hope this explanes how the we class the birds in a show.

Norm only the green series DF Spangle with mask the yellowface. The blue series will not. So Spangle Yellowface blues will give a yellowface white df spangle.

You have been working hard Chirpy. :budgiedance:

Well the Water tank Finally came. I have it in place now I need the pump, plumbing and some rain. :budgiedance: Click to resize

What has happened to all the photos? :budgiedance:

Good luck Macka, I am trying for a good one for our Show on the 2nd September. I have some 24 day olds coming through. Let us know how you go?

You could still find that it could be a cinnamon gene in the DF Spangle. It would have to be a hen if thats the case. The DF will mask some genes especially in the green series. It masks yellowface as well.

If you are in Australia, I can get the fronts for you. Also you can go to my web site. I also see Breeding cages, Stock cages and nest boxes.

Thanks Sailorwolf. I'll becareful. I use ALI in the aviary and bird room so I hope that helps. Well I am getting a bit closer to completing the Aviary. The 1000lt Water tank should be delivered this month. I then will need to set up the pumping and filter system for the birds.. Then hope for rain. It hasn't rained this month yet. :ausb: Still waiting for the approval for the building.. Hopefully that will be approved by the end of the month. I have renewed the Bird Permit for another year with out problems so I hope all will go well.

I leave them with the parents until they are 6 weeks old and then move them to a nursary for at least 3 week before selling them. If they are for show they stay in the nursary until they are 3 months old and then go in to the Junior Flight until they are 6 months and then into the main flights.

:ausb: Daniel in your 40 years of breeding, with over 500 birds, I would have thought you would have seen that many times.

Great Photos but what happen to the first set :ausb: I see your a breeder, can you show us the photos of your breeding room. That is usually the first place i like to see when I go to web sites.

Well done Kaz.. sorry to hear about the tail.. But I think in my post about Murphy's Law there is a point about the tail being attracted to the show cage floor.

Elly some times a cock can wipe out a complete clutch in an hour. Not long enough to realise what is going on and save the chicks. I sex my chicks about 3 weeks old. The hens will have white nostral rings and the cocks will be pure pink across the cere. This is about 90% accurate. I have had some birds up to two months old and couldn't guess their sex until they moulted.

Well the breeding cages are complete and the buyer is picking them up tomorrow night.. Next Project???? Might be 100 show cages.