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As MB suggests about the earliest you can expect eggs after a pair is put together is 10 days, but every birds is different & some can take a lot longer.

Best of luck Liv, I know what it’s like when you get new birds in & have hopes of getting something good from them, lets hope all works, as I like those two & if everything works you should get something nice from them. I will be watching with interest.

You will get some DF Spangles I think it’s about 25%. They both look in pretty good condition, if that’s a resent photo? You can only try them & hope for the best. Some like Kaz said pair in no time at all, others take ages. I bought a show type cock last year & tried it with one hen all the eggs were clear, then tried with others wouldn’t even look at them & has been in an aviary with other birds since with nothing happening, I had just about given up on him, when the last few days he’s gone mad on some young chick…literally…she hasn’t even got her adult plumage & they are mating & carrying on like crazy…some maybe just need the “RIGHT” bird…fussy.

The second one might be the best Liv, it would be a lot easier to divide I would think.

Looking good Nerwen. Thanks for the update.

Good luck with everything Kaz, you have been getting some crazy weather over there of late haven’t you?

Pity we don’t have them here, to me that looks like a pretty nice Mutation with the reduction in body colour, but still has full strength colour in the wing pattern. You wonder why the Mutation is not more popular & being Dominant it would be a lot easier to breed, if it was possible I for one would like some. Someone might import some if imports are resumed, but without a spontaneous Mutation I couldn’t afford it. http://www.bestofbreeds.net/belgianbs/engl...bs/mervilde.htmThere's a Belgian breeder at least. Those two first birds from left to right, on that site are Easley’s I think, I certainly like that second one Yellow with Black markings…nice bird. Thanks Falki...thanks for the post also we learnt quite a bit from it.

There would be worms there, but a pet bird kept by it’s self would have very limited contact especially if the cage was regularly cleaned. Worms especially Round Worms are everywhere, there’s no escaping them. I don’t worm my birds regularly & don’t seem to have any trouble that I can pin down to worms. I have read in poultry information put out by the experts that it is actually worse to keep worming poultry, they have found that a few mature Round Worms in the gut is pretty normal & does less damage than juvenile ones, which is what happens if they are wormed, there’s straight away a invasion of new worms hatching from eggs & this does more damage.

Didn’t anyone think I was right when I said I thought it was an Easley Clearbody? Like I said on page 1. There are none in OZ so I looked on the net to confirm…that’s what I think it is.

I have a pair that have just had their young leave the nest, the strange thing I have noticed is that when the hen tries to feed the young, the male seems sort of jealous or something & steps between the hen & the young & wont let her feed them, then he takes the food from her, usually it’s the other way around the male feeding the hen, then he then feeds the chicks, but he wont let her. Never seen this before, shows you that humans are not the only strange beings in this earth.

Like others have said it’s known as night fright, Cockatiels are even more prone to it than Budgies. I used to keep some in the house when I first got them & it happened all the time, I think all it needs is one bird to panic & that frightens the other or others & it’s a chain reaction.

I would be interested to find out if you're allowed to take birds on as hand luggage, for future reference, when you find out MB. I don't think water would be a good idea, in fact I wouldn't think they would allow it especially in luggage holds as if spilt would potentially damage other peoples property. On a short trip it wouldn't be a problem with Budgies, but if your worried you could give them a block of apple.

Neat, Green series birds can mask YF & GF, but unless you mate them with Blue series birds, you can’t see it.

With that first picture taken from the back I wondered about the Yellow feathers showing near the tail, if it could have been a Clearbody, but as some have suggested the flight feathers are not faded. I have just done a search of the net to find a picture of an Easley Clearbody, as I couldn't remember seeing one. From the couple of pictures I was able to find it looks like an Easley Clearbody, as they seem to have the darker wing pattern & the main flight feathers remain full colour. We don't have them in Australia as far as I know, but they are in the UK, so some may have got into other countries in Europe. That bird has an extremely clear head; usually with Opalines you can see some pattern. Maybe it’s not even an Opaline, I don’t know enough about Easley’s to know.

Yes an Opaline of some kind, but with some unusual traits, it would be very interesting to see some front pictures if you can get them.

It seems nice when young birds are seen feeding other young & I have had that experience, but I have found out the hard way that having previous batches of young left in an aviary where older birds are breeding, can be fatal for new young just leaving the nest. I have left young in an aviary with only one pair breeding thinking it will be alright, but when the next batch of young have left the nest the older ones killed them straight away. Budgies may seem nice & friendly in most situations, but they have another side & if another bird is sick, incapacitated in some way [just real young] they will kill that bird. I would suggest you take the warnings from others seriously, as things can change so quickly.

I’m sorry to say if they are sticking to the feathers in the vent area that still means that they are not normal. In a healthy Budgie the poops shouldn’t stick to the feathers.

Welcome back guys & waiting on those pictures, wish I could have been there, must have been a great experience to be able to talk with the Al-Nassars.

Mostly as Kaz suggests hens will only sit a little over the due time & then either leave them or destroy them.

Looks good Misslu, I agree with Kaz you made a great discission going with the one with the tin up from the ground to help keep mice at bay. I still think like Cara said that safety doors are always a plus, I don’t think you can always rely on birds being tame as a safety thing, luckily all my aviaries open into birds rooms, which makes it safe, but some of my birds are so tame it’s dangerous & as I walk out the door sometimes birds are landing on my back or head, as some just wont stay off of me when I’m inside the aviary.

Looks great Birdluv…but if it’s difficult for you to get new natural perches, I would make sure you wash & disinfect any used ones, as you don’t know the history of their birds. Also when they are dead like that it’s hard to know if they are from safe plants. Your birds will enjoy all that space even if you don’t buy some more.

Exactly my thoughts Kaz, they can’t cut the feathers so that they don’t grow back unless they cut some of the wing it’s self off.

I don’t think there is much you can do, even when they are in aviaries with hundreds of other Budgie they will mate with other things, they are just little mating [breeding] machines, it’s basically just their nature. A mate will at least give him an interest & occupy his time, but then they may wish to breed.

Congratulations to Victoria.

I have a theory, whether it’s true or not, I don’t know. I think that some of the pairs that at first take a long time to go down in cabinets, could be birds that were bred in the colony method & that birds that have been reared in cabinets seem more to know what it’s all about once they are placed in one. If your birds have been used to colony breeding I would just be a little more patient with them, they will get the idea in time.