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Now he decided he doesnt want to get rid of them. I tried telling him he wasnt taking adequate care of them and he got mad, "What do you know? Youve only had yours a week!". Guess he never went to a good site such as this... Sammy is driving me CRAZY. He's chewing his cuttlebone and mineral treat thing to bits, which doesnt bug me, its good for him. But oh man, he's trying to get out like crazy. He was shaking the cage earlier, had it MOVING! Climbing all over, shaking it, knocking perches down, knocking toys down, taking his ladder and pulling it all over etc. He's just going insane since he saw that other bird... He's trying EVERYTHING to get out. Shaking the *** out of his food dishs, trying to get under the bars on the tray etc. It's driving me INSANE!! When should it pass? He's also become VERY pulled away from me, runs from my hand and won't even sing for music. I tried covering his cage and he instantly STOPPED and climbed on his swing and chirped a few times. I said "No, bad bird, bad sammy!" and he stopped and just sat there, I uncovered his cage after about 10 minutes and he's calm now.

He's kinda... in a 'meh' mood. Quiet, not really scared of my hand, just really neutral. I think he finally realized "Well.. wow, this is my new home. No escaping it" A bit off topic of bonding: My friend has 2 keets. He hand trained one when he got it a year ago but never bothered with the other, and NEVER pays any attention to them. The birds will start chirping to each other and he'll throw pillows at the cage etc to shut them up. He said I could have the hand trained one... I'd love to take it, but i dont wanna leave that other one all alone to just live a lonely life. Should I take it, or try to get both, or leave it since I'm un-expereienced or other reasons? I'll def. need a bigger cage, and keep them/it in quarentine for awhile until I get them trained, and hope for the best. 3 birds is alot :-D What should I do? Tis a tough one...

Thats it, preening. IDK why i thought kneeding (Laughing out loud). And he wanted out of his cage a few minutes ago, so I opened it up. After playing his favorite song a bit and coaxing with Millet, he came flkying out right onto my arm. he jumped off onto the floor and walked around a bit, then fluttered up to my bed wqhere i put out my finger and said "UP!". He climbed up, I took him really high (as ive read to do when outside-cage training) and he looked around and chirped. I slowly took him to his cage and talked softlyt to him, he jumped off onto his bars when i got to his cage and he climbed down to his entrance and got in.

He's STILL interested in the window, even with the blinds down and practically closed all the way. Sits there and tries getting out of his cage towards the window. Also, it sometimes he'll like... hmm.. "lay" while hes on his perch. basically, hes standing but completely horizontal, head down, and hes looking above him. He'll slowly come back up. My mom says while I'm at work, he plays with his toys and chirps and has a great time. When I get home, he just sits there, gets on his swing and swings, chirps to my music, but doesnt play with his toys. Any reason as to why hes different? Also, he's stretching a bit more often and poofing up and 'chewing' or kneeding around on his lower back/wing/under wing area He's becoming increasingly less sociable and wants nothing to do with me anymore. its a fight to get him on my finger! He doesnt freak when i wak up to his cage, doesnt freak when i put my hand in his cage, but when i go up to him with my finger he moves away, eventually desperatley climbing around the bars of the cage. He doesnt run from my hand, just my finger. So i quit, he calms down and gets on his perch and sits there. What could be causing this sudden pulling away? Seeing the other birds? The first couple days he was wonderful. Now hes getting less sociable and less playful. Maybe he's moulting? I noticed he's kneeding alot it seems.

Alright, ty! did so, hes not freaking now! But he wants nothing to do with me now, is still highly interested in the window. Take that baxk, after i posted that he started flipping out again

thanks! Man, the questions keep popping up... theres a window behind Sammy's cage, and during the day I open the blinds so he can see outside. When he sees other birds, he gets VERY vocal, chirping loudly etc, then FREAKS out trying to get out of the cage, apparently trying to get to them. Finally when they are gone, he chirps very very sadly, chirps for me to help him up or jumps up himself and sits on his perch all sad looking for a bit, chirping kinda sadly here and there. He snaps out of it after about 30 minutes. Should I keep the blinds up or put them down? By The Way he loves "Alice Cooper - Poison" :rip: He gets very vocal and happy, chirping, singing, swininging on his swing, etc when I play it for him :-D

Awesome, tyvm guys! I might grab one of them cages lovey, look great for a couple budgies! Hopefully I can get a 2nd, might find a breeder though since it'd be easier to tame. Is there some kind of big list somwhere I can find a local breeder?

Well, I took some pics of Sammy as "he" get fluffed up to go to sleep! maybe these will help! http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3686/dsc00335kc5.jpg http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3008/dsc00348lt5.jpg http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2535/dsc00354rp4.jpg Hehe right now he just got done stretching, fluffed up and is dozing off :-) So cute, he's warbling a bit too! Guess he must be comfortable!

(About 4 days :-p) Of course, makes perfect sense. He loves this swing! I think it might help the finger training, as when he wants up to it and doesnt wanna jump, he chirps a bit and stares, so I put my finger in and take him to it. He hops on it and just starts chirping and having a wonderful time again! I was just wondering because I've got him partially finger trained and when he found he loved the swing, he doesnt want anything to do with me or my finger besides when he gets down and wants back up. Just didnt wanna mess up the training or anything. thanks!

Hmm, quick question. Well, a few. First, can you PM me that link to the cages you talked about? And 2nd, Sammy is become highly attatched to his circle swing. Usually he'll get on my finger on his perch but refuses to get off his swing. He sat in it swinging for hours, chirping and having a wonderful time. But, he wants nothing to do with me while on it. This has been all day. Finally, he was climbing around on it and got stuck at the top. Too high to jump and its plastic so he couldnt climb back down it. So he started chirping this really sad/distrssed sounding chirp, so I 'rescued' him. He was highly reluctant though. Got him back on his perch and he's fine now. Should I remove this swing until I get him hand tamed? Or let it go since he likes it? ty! Oh, in above posts i was agreeing on his color, but i was talking about the cere color being blueish.

Yesterday and Today, its more blue. That picture was right after i got him in the cage on Saturday, so he was a bit nervous. After he calmed down it turned blue. You might be right though! We'll see for sure when his color sets in when he gets settled in!

Awesome! One thing, today he's extremely skittish. I changed his bottom tray, and when I pulled it out he FLIPPED! I changed food, water etc and he was fine. But even before I changed his tray etc he was shaking a bit and skittish. Could it be my AC? It runs at about 70. Or could he be scared? My house it quiet for the first few hours of the day. Thanks! PS I think it could be my quiet house, he calms right down when I'm around.

He doesnt do it extremely often, just when hes about to nap which is maybe once or twice. That and when he wakes up.

Only thing that concerns me in a way is hes very quiet, not vocal at all. Maybe a chirp or coo or warble, but nothing else. He might still be a bit traumatized from the big switch still? Kinda scared of a new environment? Does anyone have anything on this? Oh and tyvm Phoebe!

Oh he does! A website would be wonderful, thank you! Also, he seems really reluctant to get on my finger all the sudden! He gets on and gets off really fast. And I start school in a couple months, 7AM-3PM. Should I get him a companion after I get him hand trained fully? I'll prolly need a bigger cage, huh? And, he seems to be stretching and fluffing up quite a bit, napping etc. Does this signal hes getting comfortable and feeling safe? Oh By The Way, side note, what part of Ohio are you from? :-)

Sure!

I got my first keet, Sammy, yesterday. I set up his cage nice, a high perch, low and medium. Cuttlebone, food, watrer, etc. He loves his medium perch right by his brush. He sat and shook and breathed hard, was scared for a bit, then started to warble a bit and ate a bit of Millet. Played with his swing, then flew around his cage and checked it out. I played some Pantera, and honestly I thought it'd scare him, but he whistled along and chirped alot surprsingly! The whol.e day we all talked to him, whistled etc. Today, I changed his seed and water and he watched me from his high perch. He freaked when I bumped the cage and flapped around, climbing the cage insanely. I let him settle and eventually he sat there and fluffed his feathers, stretched his wings and feet, yawned, and took a nap. He woke, looked like he kneeded a bit and watched me sit here and peck away at my keyboard. I decided to try the hand training methods I've read. So, I started by holding his seed cup up to his head. He studied the bowl, my fingers and me a bit, I talked softly, saying "Go on pretty bird! good bird, go on sammy!" and he started to eat out of the bowl! He ate a bit and I took it, put it back. Then, I took some seed and put it in my hand. Offered it.. he studied my hand a bit, I encouraged him, and he took one foot, put it on my thumb and started eating out of my palm! He kept one foot on the perch at all times though. He finished that seed, so I let him sit and relax a bit. I then took a peice of Millet and offered it to him in my fingers. He studied it and my fingers half as short as the other times and ate it. I continued offering it to him, then decided the "Up" method. I took my finger, put it up to where he was sitting, put it against his feet, said "Up!" and pushed. He put BOTH feet on my finger and sat there! He got down about 20 seconds later. This has progressed greatly. He let me put him on his swing, then when he wanted down he hopped on my finger and i took him down to his favorite spot where he hopped off and turned around. He hasnt let me take him out yet, as he doesnt like it really well when i move around. though, once I took him straight up to the very top highest part in his cage and he got really happy! All this in 2 days! Wow! I got him from a Bin-O-Budgies, too! Is this rare? Also, should I continue this or do anything else? I'd think not since this is working fairly well. When should I attempt to take him out?