**KAZ**

Hi Ray and welcome Your birds look healthy and happy and you have a great cage. To save your birds dying by hanging please remove and throw away that green fringed rope type toy.............toys like that have been known to hang birds..........I have experienced this myself with my birds before I knew better. Any rope or fringing over 2 inches is a danger to birds. I am sure you can get some name suggestions here. NICE DOG PS photos can be posted here of a size 480 by 640 Cheers Kaz

Ten for me...... but some of their were adopted TEN BABIES....Custard and Puddings and adopted.... 1. theirs YF cinnamon cobalt dom pied 2. theirs cobalt dom pied 3. theirs cinnamon violet dom pied 4. adopted 5. adopted 6. adopted 7. adopted 8. adopted 9. adopted 10. adopted cinnamon violet and Custard and Pudding

Looks really nice

You gotta be real happy with these babies Dan

There is no such thing as a KING BUDGIE. If you mean a show type or exhibition type budgie breeding with a pet type or pet sized budgie ...then YES they will with no issues at all I guess where you come from the larger show type budgies are called King Budgies

Hey Red your budgies look a little different to mine :D

Third time ...no, but this one YES

well done............worked yes...but you forgot to resize to forum sizes of 640 by 480 before posting

You have some very nice birds there Squeak

I have seen them often in wild flocks also

I have some John Ennis birds coming to me after Christmas Splat

by adding nestboxes to an aviary you force the birds to fight over boxes and get territorial. The " mother that killed her own chicks " didnt.......another female did. Thats what females do when they want a nestbox for themselves...they " clean it out" and that means remove or kill anything in it...be it eggs or chicks. Having nestboxes in an aviary also force breeds birds and forcebreeds birds that are considered too young. There should never be nestboxes anywhere underaged budgies are so that means any under 12 months. If you want to breed your budgies, use the aviary as their fun place to be...no nestboxes. And remove each pair to a breeding cage...one male, one female and one nestbox. Safe and less stress and less deaths. Read this http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=28294 and all the links to other colony breeding stories within that topic. You may decide to do things differently after reading. As far as rats goes ....YES rats will kill and eat the birds. BUT generally they go for the canaries and finches first as they are easier to get roosting at night. If they get a budgie they will eat the whole head and most of the chest cavity down to lower abdomen and all you will find is lower extremities, feet and wings with a near empty body carcass. A rat attack usually looks like a feast has happened and its pretty bloody. Will budgies kill their own ? YES over fights over possession of nestboxes. They dont kill and eat at the time of the fight, however every budgie in your aviary will; eat from a dead budgies carcass......they will eat the head, brain, face and peck at feet and chest. It wont look the same as a rat attack. I think you need to rethink how you are doing things, for the better wellbeing of the birds.

Yeah Very cool

A New Mutation - Seafoam Yellow Face or Kerle Faced Blue On a visit to the aviaries of Kevin O’Callaghan in Rockhampton Queensland in 2010 a couple of birds that did not appear to be the norm stood out. These birds had a Yellow Face with no yellow in the cap. The cap was white in fact almost whiter than white if this could be so. On asking Kevin where these birds originated, he advised Graeme Kerle of Townsville in Queensland. Graham produced from a Yellow Faced Opaline Cobalt hen (purchased at auction from Ernie Wise of New South Wales) and a Spangle Grey cock – non yellow faced (purchased from Robert Manvel also of New South Wales in one of his sale lots) 2 x Spangle Yellow Faced Sky cocks, 1 x Spangle Yellow Faced Sky hen, 1 x Spangle Sky cock. This occurred in 2003. The Yellow Faced progeny were all visual ‘Seafoam’ and were quite obviously different when viewed in the nest. The mask being yellow, the cap white and the body colour ‘Seafoam’. Neither parent had any visual variations to what would be described as ‘normal’ for their respective variety. The initial resultant offspring from this pairing suggest that the Spangle was not a Double Factor Yellow face. The term ‘Seafoam’ was nominated by Jennie Liebich as soon as she sighted them; the body colour in each resembled the colour of the sea just below the foam of a breaking wave. ‘Seafoam’ does not reflect the mask and cap colouration, but the body colour only. Realistically they could be called ‘Kerle Faced Blue’ to reflect the origins or ‘Seafoam Yellow Face’ to embrace Jennie’s initial artistic interpretation. The pairings at Graeme’s resulted in nests averaging 70% visual ‘Seafoam’ with the nonvisual still carrying the trait as ‘Seafoams’ were bred from these non-visual pairings. Visual ‘Seafoams’ to Normal Green series birds resulted in visual Blue series (non Seafoam), and Opaline Green hens, these paired back to Blue series (Non visual Seafoam) then gave a very high visual result in ‘Seafoam’ of about 60%, this being Graeme’s assessment. When the first of these ‘Seafoam’ birds were produced, Graeme, as I understand it, gave a couple to a backyard breeder not knowing what he had produced. Kevin noticed some on a visit to Grahams and was fortunate enough to obtain some to breed with and Kevin then was kind enough to gift a couple to Jennie for her to work with. The pair that arrived with Jennie back to Mount Gambier were both visual ‘Seafoams’, one being Normal and the other a Spangle, these produced chicks and we were overjoyed to see that a couple were ‘Seafoams’. The resultant chicks did not seem to have a long life expectancy thus a number of outcrosses occurred quickly to try and ensure that the strain remained. Note that at Grahams he did not have the same issue; it may have been that the birds that arrived at Mount Gambier were a ‘little’ close. On pairing non visual to visual, there are now a couple of ‘out crossed’ visual birds to work with. There are others that have been paired to non-visuals with no resultant visuals as yet thus more ‘proofing’ will be required to fully ascertain breeding possibilities. Graham and Kevin have sent down some further birds that are non-visual that have produced this new variety for them and to these two gentlemen Jennie and I cannot thank them enough for giving us the opportunity to work with these and the previous pair of birds. One interesting occurrence is that we now have a Green with a Yellow Mask and White cap – and produced from two blues??? This information is being released to share with others this new mutation and to also see if changes are occurring elsewhere in the world of a similar nature. It is a bit premature to determine the breeding habits of this variety, noting that it is Dominant but other surprises might present. I believe the Spangle has something to do with this mutation and other aviaries that I have visited recently have changes occurring and all of these go back to the Spangle parentage. It is interesting as Roy Aplin of the United Kingdom painted birds similar to these some years ago predicting such a change might occur. Nigel Tonkin Please use this link for the article WITH PHOTOS https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0_0vRjrcsuMNWU4NTkxMmEtYTMyNi00Y2JhLTkyYzgtNGMwMmFkMTdiMzZm

Renee it doesnt sound like your hen prolapsed at all...sorry Prolapse http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=24699&view=findpost&p=293337&hl=prolapse&fromsearch=1 I have had hens recover from prolapses and not ever be able to lay again...I have tried. I guess it depends on the severity and the damage done .....

How about you post photos of the bird not in a group. PS iris rings make it very clear its dommie pied not recessive. If you are talking about the 3rd bird along that perch then yes its also yellowface, and YES you do get yellowface blue birds. You may be confusing the fact that all green budgies have a yellow face but that doesnt make them yellowfaces if you get my drift The two birds to the right appear to be goldenfaces

One way or another there is something irritating his respiratory system...............whats in the house that may be upsetting him.....?? air fresheners, draughts, aerosols sprays, teflon ??

Very classy chicks

You got some real cuties there Dave

Good job

and there are some members on here who do not think before posting...like yourself. Please do not post like this again...it just cost you another warning.

There are no cinnamon FACED violets and noone here would have said there is. There are cinnamon winged violets not cinnamon faced.

despite fuzzy photo ( please use macro setting for closeups ) there seems to be no evidence of scalyface

Inside is an acrylic white gloss. ( Enamel gloss yellows with time and the acrylic doesnt ) Outside is a black enamel gloss ( not acrylic )

I agree with others...top male bottom female