**KAZ**

The youngest female, the runt of the litter that was born with fluid on its lungs was blue and cold at the 3 am feeding. Even just a couple of drops of milk on her tongue was causing bubbles to come out of her nose as with all her earlier feeds. She looked like she would die at 3-4 am. I popped her in my bra ( as I have done to warm baby budgies sometimes ) and let her sleep through with me to the next feeding under the doona. I expected her to die BUT at 7:30 she was warm, coloured up again and active. So I thought I would try feeding her just a drop or two at a time. Again it all came out of her nose and her lungs were still bubbling with fluid. Bundled them all up and took her back to the vets and demanded they check her over better than they had the last two times I asked them to. Turns out she was a premmie and an area far back in her throat past the roof of her mouth ( where they check for cleft palates which she didnt have )....into the area of the soft palate....wasnt formed properly and hence she could not feed. She has been put to sleep............ goodbye little angel...you tried very hard but it was not to be Maggie is still at the vets and her other pups are there for the day too as I have a work deadline thats driving me more than crazy and have had three days straight with little or no sleep and running back and forth to the vets. On top of that my devon rex cat Morticia or Tish has come on heat and she is wailing the house down in an effort to be mated. Little does she know she is off to the vets to be desexed tomorrow. Because of her wailing ....there's been more lack of sleep in this house.

Chemist shops sell dropper bottles ...the kind they use for eyedrops.

First feed done and they are sleeping near the heater. Another feed around 11 and 2:30 or 3am and again around 6am. I also have a mountain of leadlight work to do to meet a deadline I cannot change. Heading for the short black coffee. :question:

She is real cute :question:

If ever you miss someone....it is not a need for a topic as all you have to do is send them a PM message :question:

Maggie is staying at the vets overnight. We had to collect the puppies as noone would be able to feed them tonight. I have to bottle feed them till we get Maggie back home.

Yeah...we spoil her

What a gorgeous chick

No brown ones unless the last two that died were that colour.

Father of the puppies Baylee

There is no sign of life in the last pup and its hugely undersized....so it didnt make it either. Eight is well over the limits for a cavalier girl having her first litter....normal is 3 only for first litter. She comes from a very good gene pool.......her father was excessively FERTILE PS we cook for our dogs..roo, beef and mutton with vegies and macaroni or rice. They also eat fresh meat and fresh vegies ( not cooked ).

Hey maddy I was going through an old topic and discovered this POST that was me going to my first budgie club meeting as well July 2006 cheers kaz

I used to be a vet nurse so I recognise symptoms when things arent right and have to act fast. Just heard from the vet......... Maggie is doing okay. She is on a drip and antibiotics........and has had meds to help her pass whatever is left inside her. The puppies are still feeding partly from her and partly being topped up by bottle by the vets. She may be allowed to come home around tea time. She has also eaten some chicken.

Have done it before...so I guess I will do whatever I have to do.

Just got back from the vets. Maggie has two more pups inside of her and she has a high temperature. One of the pups would be dead as she passed the placenta without the pup attached. The other we dont know about. Apparently they can have some puppies as late as 12 hours after the others. She is having xrays ansd a procedure to try and make her pass the pups on her own. If she cant pass the pups she will have to have them surgically removed.

Taking Maggie and the pups back to the vet. Maggie may have an infection as she has gone off her food, wont drink unless forced and isnt caring for her puppies apart from letting them feed off her. She is lethargic and seems to have a temperature.

Found in anet search............In Oz, some Coles Supermarkets stock Sunraysia Premium Raspberry Delight – 80% - A$7.99 for 375 ml. It is a warehouse item and can be ordered in by any Coles manager. Also available from many supermarkets in Bali, including Circle K shops.100% natural Garden Fresh raspberry fruit syrup is available at the Pasadena Foodland in South Oz, A$5.50 for 750 ml bottle, also Golden Grove Village. Other Foodland managers can get stock in for you with a little persuasion. Contains only sugar, raspberry juice and citric acid. Used for drink flavouring and dessert toppings.Also raspberry syrup available at Gaganis Bros just off South Road at the intersection with Grange Road. 1.5 litres for A$4.95.Also in South Oz (and maybe other parts of Oz or the world) - Kevron Aust, 188 Glynburn Rd Tranmere Ph 8332 6055 or fax 8364 0739 , E-mail kevin@kevronfoods.com.au. Also - Aust Food Innovators, PO Box 970 Berri SA 5343 Ph 8582 4233 Fax 8582 4344, E-mail sales@austfoodinnovators.com.au. Pure raspberry juice with no artificial flavours, sugars or preservatives, 100% natural.Marsaka brand Raspberry Juice has a 65% concentration of juice. Available in Continental delis, even some butchers and supermarkets. In a 1 litre glass bottle so best to decant into plastic drink bottles for the trip over. The importers are Marco Polo Foods in Campsie, NSW. Ph 02 9718 8922 to find out your nearest stockists. In Adelaide the distributors number is 8345 3792 for your nearest stockist.In '05 the Coles Supermarket at the Colonnades Shopping Centre had Fresh Attitude 100% Raspberry Crush (in the fruit and veg section) - 300ml bottles for $4.98Anchor Cordial is available from Dawson's and Supa Valu in the northern Perth suburbs. Check the concentration of raspberry.Cascade Raspberry Fruit Juice Syrup is also good. Ph Freecall 1800 641 647 for stockists in your (Oz) area.**** Smith and Golden Circle (in Oz) both have raspberry cordial with 40% juice. Coles (at Warwick in WA and Colonnades in Sa at least) had 100% Natural Raspberry Crush made by Fresh Attitudes in '05. $4.50 for 300ml. $4.95 in SA. No added sugar no preservatives, no concentrates. Check the expiry date and refrigerate after opening. Can be frozen.Get the good oil from this web address: :- http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/s263898.htm .100% concentrate is available from Bramble Farm in Langwarrin, Victoria, Australia from Di Benson who will post you a supply COD – Di Benson at brambleb@bigpond.com. Ph 03 9776 7018. Take 10 mils undiluted twice a day. Tastes good, berry flavour, not sickly sweet.Also from Shepparton at http://www.berrysweet.com.au/.In '07 I heard that it was now available at the Gourmet Garage in Jimbaran Bay. Healing Fruits Ellagic Acid Found in red raspberries, strawberries, blue berries, and certain nuts, the Hollings Cancer Institute at the U of South Carolina recently finished (1999) n years of study showing that ellagic acid: * stops cancer cells from dividing in 48 hours * causes normal cell death (apoptosis) within 72 hours in cases of breast, pancreas, esophageal, skin, colon and prostate cancers * prevents the destruction of the p53 gene that leads to cancer * caused apoptosis (normal cell death) in HPV (human papilloma virus) exposed to it * one cup (150 grams) per day of red raspberries prevents the development of cancer cells. From Dr Glen Halvorson's Book, Chemopreventive Properties of …Phytochemicals, welearn that ellagic acid: * is anti-bacterial and destroys the H. pylori bacteria responsible for stomach ulcers. * protects the liver and liver function * binds with carcinogens (chemicals that cause cancer) making them inactive * prevents carcinogens from binding to DNA * reduces glucose levels (aids in management of diabetes). Raspberries contain the highest amounts of ellagic acid, and it doesn't matter if the fruit is boiled, baked, canned, sugared, dehydrated, or fresh, the ellagic acid is still potent.One of the most amazing things about raspberries is that one cup per week stops prostate cancers (all prostate cancers) from growing for one week.Two more things are currently underway at the Hollings Cancer Institute: they're patenting a process that extracts the ellagic acid from raspberries and, hopefully, it will not be destroyed in the stomach (ellagic acid, so far, cannot be taken as a supplement, and must be eaten as the fruit) and they are conducting a double blind (neither patient nor physician knows who's taking what) study involving 500 cervical cancer patients. Please note: if you are eating raspberries for their ellagic acid you must eat them on an empty stomach, before you eat anything else, or eat them in yogurt, as the curdling of the yogurt in the stomach will protect them. If your fruit sits in your stomach too long, because you've eaten something prior, stomach acid will destroy its healthful properties. Always keep in mind that a healthy body creates 40 million cancer cells daily, but the immune system cleans them up. Your immune system is your greatest defense against disease, and Health Care should focus on health; focus on a healthy immune system. Our system of Health Care is Disease Care. This is insane. Keep your immune system functioning and well fed, and you will maintain health.If you are on chemotherapy or radiation, your immune system is being systematically destroyed. Fewer than one percent of the conventional oncologist we have spoken with tell their patients anything regarding their immune systems. The simple fact is that when undergoing chemotherapy or radiation, your body becomes a toxic waste dump (even without counting the crud brought in by the medicines, because as a tumor dies, the body must clean it up; the immune system must clean it up—an immune system that is shot, that is). Therefore, anyone undergoing chemotherapy or radiation must detox and rebuild their immune system. . Raspberry juice kills deadly bacteria From the Sturt University in Wagga Wagga28/04/2001 Raspberry fruit juice can kill the virulent bacteria that causes gastroenteritis, Australian scientists reported on Thursday.Experiments with pure raspberry juice and commercial cordials at Charles Sturt University in Wagga Wagga, southern New South Wales, have shown the farmers' remedy has scientific validity, Dr Heather Cavanagh said.Scots-born Cavanagh and Dr Jenny Wilkinson from the school of biomedical sciences found that concentrated raspberry juice kills e-coli, salmonella, mycobacterium and staphylococci among other bugs."We have been told that if Riverina calves suddenly develop diarrhoea, local farmers don't call the vet, they simply add a couple of litres of raspberry cordial to their drinking trough," Dr Cavanagh said."We're also told that residents along the Queensland coast regularly indulge in this habit themselves and willingly pass on their knowledge to holiday-makers for a 'problem-free' holiday," she added. Even commercial parrot and finch breeders and chicken factories add the cordial to the birds' drinking water in the belief that it prevents gastroenteritis and salmonella infection, according to Dr Cavanagh."As the foremost anecdotal use of this cordial is by cattle, pig and chicken farmers and cage bird breeders, it would appear Australia has been harbouring a secret agricultural weapon that may now be utilised by all," she said. Source: Charles Sturt University in Wagga Wagga, southern New South Wales Black Raspberries Show Multiple Defenses In Thwarting Cancer COLUMBUS, Ohio - A cup of black raspberries a day may help keep esophageal cancer at bay. Researchers found evidence in rats that black raspberries may both prevent the onset of esophageal cancer as well as inhibit precancerous growth already underway. "Black raspberries are loaded with nutrients and phytochemicals that may prevent the development of cancer," said Gary Stoner, a study co-author and a professor of public health at Ohio State University. Stoner, who has also found similar anti-carcinogenic effects with strawberries, said the study results suggest that a daily diet of about 1.4 to 2 cups of fresh strawberries may be ideal for staving off certain types of cancer. "Although this level is larger than a standard serving size of fruit, it is behaviorally possible," he said. "The National Cancer Institute recommends that every American eat at least four to six helpings of fruit and vegetables each day. We suggest that one of these helpings be berries of some sort. "The research appears in the journal Cancer Research.Esophageal cancer is the sixth-leading cause of cancer-related deaths worldwide. The outlook is bleak for those diagnosed with the disease - five-year survival rates range from 8 to 12 percent. In the current study, the researchers looked at black raspberries' ability to halt the onset of cancer, as well as the fruit's ability to inhibit the progression of precancerous cells to cancer.They conducted experiments on two groups of rats. Some of the rats from each group were injected with NMBA, a chemical carcinogen that induces esophageal cancer. NMBA is one of a group of chemicals called nitrosamines, compounds that have been linked to cancer. Nitrosamines are found in fried bacon, cured meats, tobacco products, beer and certain industrial products.Rats in the study received NMBA and their diet in a variety of combinations. Some rats were fed a regular diet without raspberries, while others received diets consisting of 5 percent or 10 percent black raspberries. Some were fed raspberries only after receiving NMBA, while others were fed the raspberry diet before and after the injection with the carcinogen.Feeding the rats 5 and 10 percent black raspberries before and after NMBA treatment reduced the number of tumors per rat by 39 and 49 percent, respectively, when compared to animals not fed black raspberries. The fruit also hindered the development of esophageal cancer in individual rats fed black raspberries after NMBA treatment. By week 15 of the study, diets of 5 and 10 percent black raspberries appeared to decrease tumor occurrence and size. At week 25, diets of 5 and 10 percent black raspberries had reduced the number of tumors by an average of 62 percent and 43 percent, respectively.By week 35 of the study, a diet of 5 percent black raspberries had reduced the number of tumors per animal by 66.5 percent, compared with NMBA-treated control mice fed a regular diet. "When berries were fed to the rats that had been pretreated with NMBA, the diet containing 5 percent black raspberries seemed to inhibit cancer to a greater degree than did a diet of 10 percent berries, a finding that has also emerged in other studies," Stoner said. "There are certain compounds in berries - and other fruits and vegetables - that in very high doses may actually promote the cancer process. This certainly doesn't mean to stop eating fruits and vegetables, but don't overdo it. "Scientists know that certain foods contain compounds that are likely to protect against specific types of cancer. Past studies suggest that tomatoes help protect against prostate cancer, and that tea consumption may reduce the risk for esophageal cancer. But the mechanism of prevention is still somewhat of a mystery. Raspberries are chock full of compounds with potentially anti-carcinogenic effects, including vitamins, minerals and plant nutrients such as anthocyanins - strong antioxidants that give berries their color. "We're currently looking at berry extracts and testing the ability of these extracts to inhibit the development and progression of cancer," Stoner said. "As we identify these extracts, we will then try to pinpoint the specific compounds in them that help inhibit cancer. "In the current study, Stoner and his colleagues tested the effects of ellagic acid - a plant nutrient shown to have protective effects against esophageal cancer. Berries are rich in ellagic acid. But the researchers found that ellagic acid alone could not account for the fruit's ability to inhibit cancer. "One or more additional berry components are undoubtedly contributing to the fruit's anti-cancer effects, " Stoner said.He chose black raspberries for this study because previous studies had shown that ellagic acid inhibited carcinogen-induced esophageal and colon cancer in animals. He and his colleagues then tested a series of fruits for their ellagic acid content, finding that berries contained the highest amount."We then decided to take a food-based approach to cancer prevention and began testing the berries' ability to inhibit chemically-induced esophageal and colon cancer," Stoner said. "Sure enough, we found that freeze-dried berries were highly protective in the esophagus and colon. But we also found that they were ineffective in protecting against lung cancer. "The protective compounds in berries may not be absorbed into the blood stream and delivered to the lungs in high enough amounts to be protective. We do believe that they protect the esophagus and colon because they are absorbed by these organs as the food moves through the digestive tract. "The study was funded by a grant from the Ohio Department of Agriculture and the National Cancer Institute.Stoner co-authored the study with Laura Kresty, Mark Morse, Peter Carlton, Ashok Gupta, Michelle Blackwood and Charlotte Morgan, all of Ohio State, and Jerry Lu of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center at the University of Texas in Smithville, Texas. Source: Ohio State University (http://www.acs.ohio-state.edu/units/research/)Date: Posted 10/30/2001 Dark-colored fruits contain the highest levels of phytonutrients, bioflavanoids, and antioxidants. Berries (cranberries, blueberries, bilberries, raspberries and strawberries) are packed with antioxidants. Blueberries and cranberries contain anthocyanins which, in addition to being a potent antioxidant, is also a free radical scavenger. Dark grapes contain ellagic acid , selenium, and quercetin (a powerful flavanoid). Studies show that grapes enhance natural killer cells and can eliminate small tumors. Grape seed contains proanthocyanidin oligomers (PCO), or as you find them in the health food store: Pycnogenol. Get a blender and blend up your dark grapes (concord's are the best, followed by purple grapes) seeds and all.More Medical research confirms eating red raspberries may be one of the most potent ways to fight cancer.Dr. Daniel Nixon, Medical University of South Carolina "One of the most popular and flavorful fruits on the market now has an entirely new reason for becoming a part of a healthy diet. Recent medical tests have shown that the red raspberry is one of the most effective all-natural ways to fight certain forms of cancer.Red raspberries have the highest content of ellagic acid, a phenolic compound that is a proven anti-carcinogen, anti-mutagen and anti-cancer initiator. Tests conducted at the Hollings Cancer Center at the Medical University of South Carolina have revealed that the ellagic acid from red raspberries is readily absorbed by the human body. This ellagic acid has been clinically shown to cause apoptosis (cell death) in cancer cells.Ellagic acid is active in antimutagenesis assays, and has been shown to inhibit chemically induced cancer in the lung, liver, skin and esophagus of rodents, and TPA-induced tumor promotion in mouse skinAdditional tests have revealed that the ellagic acid in red raspberries retains its potency after heating, freezing and concentration processing. So whether consumed fresh, in juices, fruit spreads, preserves or sorbets, the red raspberry should become a part of any healthy diet. "How does ellagic acid work? Ellagic acid acts as a scavenger to "bind" cancer-causing chemicals, making them inactive. It inhibits the ability of other chemicals to cause mutations in bacteria. In addition, ellagic acid from red raspberries prevents binding of carcinogens to DNA, and reduces the incidence of cancer in cultured human cells exposed to carcinogens.

Glad you had a fun night

Love this picture! When I logged off yesterday, I thought the count was nearly done, at 4. But 8? Wow! No wonder she looked like she was going to explode! Congratulations. Now you and Maggie have your work cut out for you, huh? 8 was a huge surprise..HUGE I am worried about the youngest as she has fluid on her chest. The vet didnt give her anything for it after all and said it will clear. But she is very rattly and congested in the chest. He said to keep the room warm so now Ken is whinging about the heater being on Will try and wean the babies sooner to help Maggie manage.....if she needs it. Ken is in seventh heaven.....he adores having a pile of cats and dogs trailing around after him. He is acting like a proud papa I phoned the lady who owned the father of the pups, tonight and told her the so called non mating actually produced puppies so we will give her the stud fee after all. I couldnt have lived with myself if we hadnt said

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Adorable Kaz and 2 with a good spot, are the parents registered. Is the father tricolour too. parents purebred...dad has papers mum hasnt...Dad is blenheim colour. Thanks heaps GB Back online....cat causing issues with phone leads as it turns out Boy are we in shock .............. 8 puppies !!! Thats a lot for a first litter for a cavalier girl Just took them all to the vet for a check over. The youngest female pup had fluid in her chest and airways and it needed checking. Vet says all good. ...strong hearts, no cleft palates or anything unusual

Four......... Three females and one male newest female is the one with the markings like a bikini on the left

I have already seen them

Three puppies at 10:30PM ( so far ? ) two tricolour females one tricolour male. What they call a Blenheim spot...very good markings Here we are at the two puppy stage Boy with the spot and larger sister who arrived butt first The three.............two females and one male

We dont know how many to come. I think maybe 4 or 5 total.