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Jeff...........your grey was exceptional .....very very nice :fingerscrossed:

cobalt and possibly even skyviolet which can be easily confused with cobalt.

She was a very lucky girl the day you came into her life......................you have gone above and beyond what most people would have and your rewards will be in another place and another time. Thank God for amazing people like you. :rofl: :rofl: :fingerscrossed:

close enough to then...some earlier and some later.

Yeah...pity about the third chick.

age assessment would be between 6-7 months I expect.

I have another pair in a nestbox....they chose themselves in the aviary and had paired up for weeks in the aviary, so I let them go into a breeding cabinet. Why ? Because the last two times I tried that hen she laid her eggs and then sat back and looked at them and didnt incubate. So I thought if she had chosen this cock in the aviary and was dead keen she may actually produce this time. She is a dilute dominant pied hen I call Beanbag and he is a green greywing cock so, I virtually ignored the nestbox thinking she wouldnt produce any babies again, but when I checked yesterday she had three chicks and seems more eggs are fertile Dad in the nestbox with the babies Based on the fact she is a dominant pied dilute and split blue and he is an green greywing what are they likely to produce ?

Todays photos Chick one Chick two chick three ( is being plucked and seems to have ********* growth )

Yes she has Renee's (hens) feather and her dad's posture, but she is a dumb as a brick that fell off the back of a truck, hence why we call her Dopey :hap: - Hopeful she will have enough sense to mate with the cock i have for her and then lay eggs in a box :fingerscrossed: :rofl: :rofl:

in which class renee ?

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BBC's Mark Hawke got second in the cinnamonwing http://www.nationalresults.net/download/at...innamon+2nd.JPG

Throw away that egg ....as soon as you can...throw it away.

and parents

:hooray: :hooray: :hooray: :hooray: :budgiedance:

Liv ....is the last photo the hen that went to the nationals and got 12th ?

Great job Liv This will keep you enthusiastic for future show breeding. wont it ?

Anyone in the western suburbs of melbourne got any ivermectin to help someone out who doesnt drive and has to do public transport ? or know where they can get some online ? contact me by PM and I will pass info along

Good for you!!!! I was holding my breath that you might be tempted to take the little guy back. Reward him with millet spray when he gets on your hand, along with kind words. You've come quite a bit down the road to have finger-tamed him. I don't think a mirror would distract him...........unless that's the only companionship he gets. If you keep up the daily routine of finger taming, rewarding with millet, talking to him with soft words and telling him he's "a good boy" and such, he'll continue to respond to that. He may not understand the words, but he'll understand your body language and tone of voice and will respond to that. Although, budgies can eventually be taught a connection between words and actions and objects.....just like a dog can. If you let him out and he knows what millet spray is.........and that's the only time he gets it......while on your finger, he'll let you come up to him and take him back on your finger to take him back to his cage. If he does not want in at that time, and if you can watch him until he goes back into his cage, just leave him out and watch him. If you want him to go into the cage because you don't have the time to watch him, then ........close the curtains, turn out the light, etc. to make the room dark. He'll return to his cage for safety (keep it lit......with a small night light. You'll eventually need one of these to keep night frights down anyway.) A budgie shouldn't be allowed to roam outside ever without some supervision. They can get into so much trouble and find things you never knew existed before they chewed a hole in it or fell into it. If he's in a room you don't like, make it dark and light up the room where his cage is. He'll go there. These are just the things that have worked for me. Some others may have other answers. Also, if you put his cage near to where you are the majority of time (say right next to where you are now if you spend a lot of time on your computer), he'll eventually join you. You can keep millet handy to reward him when he does. Then.............you're in trouble.......you're going to have him typing your messages, reading your books, drinking your tea, and eating your supper. All wonderful problems from being a budgie's friend. EDIT: By The Way, if you want to further increase his comfort level with you at any time, make clucking sounds (putting your tongue against the back of your teeth and clucking), closing your eyes and opening them, and by squinting and winking at him. You'll see him return this behavior to you. Winking and closing your eyes is a budgie signal that your are comfortable with him, and most importantly are not threat to him. He'll wink back at you, and either get all fluffed up, stand one one foot, or sometimes start preening . Preening is another budgie signal that he has nothing against you. Try it. It works! Great advice Eve

i tried the puppies early weaning onto milk formula from a small dish last night and half of them drained the bowl by lapping. Aged 17 days reason for early weaning is to take the load off maggie. All eyes open and most of them walking upright on their legs. my daughters puppy Mace FERGUS

you did the best you could Trish, and then some

Agreed. I cringe when I see that clipping style - I know for a fact the teach that style in veterinary schools as I know some vet students and they asked why I dont clip my birds that way. Lets just say I had some very convincing reasons they hadnt even heard about and their defense was "but it makes the wing look longer, more natural". :) not clipped would make it look longer and more natural that clip just looks foolish and weird. and creates a way of getting caught up. Ratzy is this bird clipped because you are trying to tame it ?

Why do you leave the couple of extra feathers when you do the wing clip ? Easier for them to get caught up and break and not necessary to clip in this way.

There's been a lot said recently from show breeders who pull tails that a pulled feather can often damage the feather follicle and the tail wont regrow. As I have seen this quite often and heard from other breeders about birds with pulled tail feathers never regrowing their tails. I will take the chance and let his regrow in his own good time. Only half my birds did the April moult and others moulted at another time or have yet to moult. I will take the chance.

The idea as said is to pair to clean headed birds and like anything else you will get percentages of flecked and not. Its an opaline trait and crosses over to any birds bred with flecked birds. In saying that its very hit and miss and your expectations in a nest, of flecked and non flecked may well surprise you. I have had flecked babies from clear headed birds and had clear headed babies from both flecked birds. They are frowned upon for showing as many breeders will feel very strongly that they shouldnt be shown and others that will show them know that it will only mark them down a few points of the bird is flecked..........points off for markings but if the bird itself looks fantastic in all other areas it can still beat a clean headed bird.