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Skyblue greywing it looks like to me and all in the nest may be males......will double check that later.

I so agree with what you are saying. This issue is AUSTRALIA WIDE !!!!!! I have had to resort to buying my outcrosses and ongoing breeding stock from interstate auctions and interstate breeders for quite some time now. Breeders that once sold me birds now wont as my birds begin to beat these open breeders on the show bench. Even waving a huge amount of cash ( $500 upwards ) under their noses will not let you get one good bird and you get shown the sh*tty cull cage......the "dregs". And these are the very breeders who criticise you when you buy from interstate. All I get offered are birds with issues, hens who scalp their chicks, birds with cysts, feather issues, health issues, lame birds etc. I have taken to taking photos of my birds with me on the camera to show them why I dont need those problems and why I need just one good bird, one outcross etc. At National selections we wonder why we are low in numbers of birds offered to be selected. A great many breeders have fantastic birds and arent even putting them up for selections anymore too. There is a general feeling of apathy and lack of motivation. There is grumbling behind scenes and in the ranks. There is far too many saying they have been ripped of or sold dodgy or sick birds by the upper levels of breeders who should know better. It seems to be that every single one of us us GOING IT ALONE with little to no support and little to no UNITY as a group. No wonder so many fall by the wayside and give up. There seems to be less accountability for rubbish birds sold as "good birds" to the newbies. I am hearing all the time of birds even sold for $1000 plus that fall off the perch in far too short a time and no offer of a replacement bird. What happened to conscience and good faith and doing the right thing by others. And then of course our best birds are going interstate to fill auctions......the mighty dollar is a drawcard for that. What gets left behind in the state for others to buy and work with ? Not a lot considering the breeder wont sell to you once you show you know what you are doing with your birds and breeding and have gone up a level. If they arent meeting the demand for interstate auctions because of the invitations to submit birds, they are sending them away to be sold so that local breeders cant get a hold of them and do something good with the bird. A fear of someone beating you on the bench with your own bloodlines that someone may have improved by the right outcross or good pairings. I have heard from TOP breeders here that no other breeder will sell them a bird too. Even they feel it................some have walked off laughing when others have asked to buy a bird. All I can say is, if this continues, with us all having to go it alone with no community spirit of assistance and helping fellow club members move forward, there will be no progression and things will die a death, members will leave the hobby disheartened and the only ones doing it and well will be the ones with $$$$$$$$$$$$$'s.

Great information

Suggest you remove that bedding and replace with budgie seed. http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=22446

Have you added to your breeding room or upgraded a bit Shannon ? If so it would be great to see

Brilliant results.......so good to see her back to normal

Vet test for mega is very simple.

Nice and roomy You are clever with your woodworking skills Splat

Good wide heads and longish masks.....some heaviness to wings so far....we will see how they grow

I also think all states should have the same systems in place, but whose system will be chosen to adopt ?

Funny how we say white down means opaline and it is so true. However in my greywing babies of the past they also had white down and females as well and none of them were opalines.

rumor has it mr gearing was fairly interested but thats rumor i didnt bother going as some the birds were apparently fairly average for way to much price but then i wouldn't know as haven't been around long enough to judge that myself i was told they refussed 4 grand for bird then a offer of five for the yf so i hope the person whom was rumored to offer 4 got it for what it sold at auction would saved them a tad of money if did what was the cheapest bird their when you were their lealotta may i ask please I heard $6000 was offered for that bird prior to auction.

Are they waiting at the airport to fly to your place? No...I wasnt bidding, but some will end up here in W.A. I am sure of that

I know ( I think ) where some of the higher priced birds ended up

Whats the new news re showing dilutes in the future at the Nationals ?

Thanks heaps RIP I knew the hen was split blue but didnt know the cock was.

So, this means Dad is split dilute ?

Great recipe :rofl: How about you add it to our recipe section in the food and nutrition forum ? I use polenta in my soft food.

agree ......suffused df spangle

She has had this name for a long time. thus named because in the nest you can do anything with her...pick her up anbd move her and she just flops and is like handling a beanbag :rofl: This chick on the far right seems to be a dilute

BEANBAG ( the mother ) is very tolerant dont you think :rofl:

Shells have to be cooked well and longer than cooking of the egg itself and dried before crushing up as they carry "bugs" :rofl:

Chicks are in a new cage together. Dad is back in a cage with his hen. PLucked baby others

Fifth chick that would have hatched died after clumsy Dad entered the nest and broke the shell. Chick bled out and died.