Posts posted by **KAZ**
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Would like you all to welcome tasbreeder to the position of admin to help out around here .....
tasbreeder is very knowledgable and a show budgie breeder and will have a lot to give .....
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Dad is no way a clearflight pied. He is a goldenface most likely SF gf cobalt and also appears to be greywing as already stated and opaline . mum could be hiding anything under her albino white coat of little surprises
Hi Martine
Im no expert but here goes.
Your cock bird looks to be Yellow face T2, Clear flight pied NO
Hen is ino
Chick is Yellowface T2, grey + Clearflight pied/ split to ino.
I am taking a guess but I think that the diluted nature of the chicks colour comes from the fact that the only thing colour wise that the hen has contributed is ino therefore NO additional genetics to offset the natural dilution of colour that occurs with the YF mutation. (this is a guess and cant back it up or dispel my little theory at this time)
All of my current YF chicks cary Df of violet + Sf of grey so my colours are at the other end of the scale to this chick.
food for thought
paulie
also I dont think full opaline as a visual trait but the cock does display an opalescent trait in the wings
the fact that the only thing colour wise that the hen has contributed is ino therefore NO additional genetics to offset the natural dilution of colour that occurs with the YF mutation. (this is a guess and cant back it up or dispel my little theory at this time)an ino can hide anything so your statement isnt correct. . An ino hen we had breeding recently produced ALL GREY OPALINE DOMINANT PIEDS when paired with a blue split ino cock.....this proved that under her "little white coat of surprises " she was in fact a DF grey opaline DF dom pied.................so what an ino hen contributes can be anything under the sun .......because you cant see what she is carrying or masking
Baby appears to be a yf or gf blue dilute
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LJ your dom pied must be a dom pied spangle ....you can only get a df spangle from TWO spangle parents
colony breeding or cabinet breeding ? post piks of the parents
"Incorrect.........as spangle is a dominant gene no budgie can be split spangle"
okay I'm confused KAZ abt why a bird cannot be split to spangle.
I have just had a nest fledge with
3 X light green spangle
2 x YF T1, Violet normal
Cock is OIlive Violet opaline / spangle?
Hen is Df Yf presenting as sky Normal /?
According to what you say here KAZ this is not possible
YET HERE IT IS.
I'm confused
The only thing I can think of is that cock may be masking Sp somehow
Ill start a new thread for this
I say again..............you cannot have spangle masked, hidden or split for. Its a DOMINANT gene ....one is either spangle or it isnt ...it can be carried. It can be hidden only in albino, lutino, yf albino, and df spangles ......
half the issues are mis identification of the parent birds, OR colony breeding, or hen retaining sperm form another mating
post piks of the parents
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That's very interesting. Since it's not a lutino, do you know what its parents are? They would both have to be spangles in order for it to be a DF spangle. The only other option is dark eyed clear. Unless maybe it has some markings coming in on it somewhere that I can't see in the photos.
The parents don't have to be both spangles. The male can be split spangle, as I get df spangles out of this combination.
Dominated Pied Cock + Spangle Hen = So I guess my cock bird is split spangle.
Incorrect.........as spangle is a dominant gene no budgie can be split spangle
This girl has a deformed beak. I picked up 5 budgies yesterday this girl was in a pair, I pointed it out to the breeder, he said it doesn't affect her & just gave her too me, she can eat well but I'm very sad for her, I read I can clip her beak to help, should I or should I put her down? She's all white the green is reflection from the avairy
your girl has whats called scissorbeak...she would have hatched with this deformity .......her beak will continue to grow wrong as neither top of bottom beak works with each other in the usual way to shape it and keep it in trim....you will need to constantly trim it back for her to eat properly
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Sorry Paulie I can't find were I read it and I know they were debating it on FB, all I can find is where it says they can be split for Australian YF. I'll keep looking. I must be going mad
a bird cant be split for aust yf as its a dominant gene....its either an ayf or it isnt ..cant be carried in a hidden form or split for
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pair 1
i think its violet DF dominant pied as it is purplish or could be mauve with normal green
MAUVE dom pied to green normal....................green is dominant .............expect green normals and green pieds ............unless the green is split blue The green has scalyface so I wouldnt be breeding him at all till hes well and sorted out
Pair 2
i think they are both Light green DF dominant pieds
They are dark green not light green .........DF to Df dom pieds if they are df will give you df dom pieds
Pair 3
i think its light green opaline spangle with blue/grey opaline spangle
opaline spangles in green unless the green is split blue ......you have a 25% chance of a double factor spangle BUT the male looks sick so I would breed him at all if I was you
As for colours
pair 1, could be green normals and Opalines.
where do you get that from ?
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you have a water dish directly under a perch ........ = poopy contaminated water
Re the log.....it isnt the best of budgie breeding homes and babies will end up falling out of it if there are any and you do need to be able to check and clean nests .......... so I wouldnt have the log in there but thats just me
any kind of nesting place force breeds budgie whether old enough or not and creates fights over possessions of it. If you have any budgies in there under 12 months they shouldnt have access to anywhere they can get the idea about laying eggs and raising a family .......
Nice aviary
Stopping The Breeding
in Breeders Discussion
budgies mate as part of recreational budgie sex...but it doesnt always lead to eggs unless they feel they have a place to raise a family