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a bit blurry but it looks like a female going into breeding condition and now when I look at the top one does look femalish.

On the mutation page I use feather Olive is considered 2 dark factors, dark green is 1, and none is light green. I still will wait for another picture on my screen the green looks to bright and not the drabby green coloring of an olive . Here is what Daz has in the FAQ and the bird on my screen looks in the middle but then screens now a days (Laughing out loud) who knows http://www.mastecbase1.com/pht/indexhi.html When I was learning I copy and pasted this I believe from Nerwen's post I guess that would make him an olive. Olive is a bird with 2 dark factors - in green it goes light green with no dark factors, dark green with 1 dark factor, and olive with 2 dark factors. Dark factors are inherited from their parents based on what color they are.. and how many they have. and here is a link from Daz to the FAQ about the 3 greens http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=12630 So that is where I based my info on.

You will get 100% recessive pieds since this gene is recessive. You will have 100% yellow based budgies unless BOTH parts are split for the blue gene. There are always surprises with sex-linked genes so if the father is carrying an opaline, ino or other sex linked genes they may come out in the hens he has. I know we have the coloration determine on Kiki, right now I believe possible dark green but not olive. Either way they will be gorgeous babies. . I did add more to your other post about their mutations.

when you are looking at the individual picture it gives you the option right above the picture I believe

Can you ask her to sign up for the BBC forums here and we can advise her personally that may help. I also remember Nerwen saying that budgies will pluck their own feathers on their chest when they are laying to layer the nest (the feathers will grow back) but since she is constantly laying eggs she could be doing this all the time along with the information that Phoebe mentioned. This poor budgie will not be around in this life time if she continues to abuse her that is literally what it is pet abuse. If she sees this as a fish MANY fish including my own get better care then this poor budgie. I hate to be harsh these are God's creatures and we are the higher intellect he put them here for us to care for them not abuse them.

There is a free download program that I use but I don't remember where to download it from and I know you can resize them on photobucket too.

There are a lot of great write up's about what you should or shouldn't do. I am looking to write up a good article here for BBC on taming tips so I can add to the FAQ section. I have reviewed the different posts but was hoping we can condense and even use this post as a link into the FAQ section. So I am asking just a bit of your time 1. How old was your budgie (s) when you purchased him/her 2. If you tamed your budgie right out of the nest, when did you start taming and handling the chick? 3. Was your budgie tame a little or not at all? 4. When you tamed your budgie was he the only budgie, or did you buy them in pairs, or was he an addition? Did your first budgie stay tame, and how did the taming go for the additional budgie (s) 5. What is your best tip you can give (don't say everyone else gave good tips (Laughing out loud)) what did YOU find worked well for you and WHY? Anything else you would like to add? Thank you!!!

linked this to the FAQ under Sexing Bugdies

bumping a good one to read

Great job Dave, I can't wait to see the pics Wonderful picture of Humphrey

He could be harboring something from the pet store he was in? Anyways I am glad everyone is on the road to recovery . Sounded like an adventure.

Congrats

they are so sweet the first picture they don't look identical so faternal twins? Congrats Kaz.

Click here across are the 3 different greens one thing I was told to remember was that there can be different shades of a light green before it is considered a dark and so forth. http://www.budgieplace.com/c_darkfactor.html you can click here and compare. I know that Nerwen you had a color guide site? As Nerwen says flash can wash out the colors and make them look brighter and lighter. If you can get a picture of her in natural light with no flash that would help .

A green (yellow-based) budgie with no dark factor will be the original very bright green; this variety is called "green" or "light green." One dark factor will result in a darker green; this variety is called "dark green." Two dark factors will result in a deep olive drab green color; this variety is called "olive." So techinally it could be green or light green either is correct.

there it does look male will await the pics tomorrow.

recessive is the mutation green is the coloration so green recessive pied Double Factor Pied for Emjay yes I really like this FAQ of our member's budgies it shows the different mutations and colors too http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/i...=126&artlang=en you can review and use as a reference too

If Bleuy's cere was a very deep blue like a male and it is now turning brown this could be indicating testicular tumor or illness. A male budgie's cere should not turn brown. If it was a light blue not a deep blue then he was probably a she. Do you have a pics of before and now? So we can compare?

Chico have iris rings he looks more dominant? but then I don't see iris rings but they could be light? If he is over 6 months with no iris rings in both eyes recessive would be correct. Also when they are only normals if they looks like the "normal" budgie but if they are say a Double Factor Dominant Pied like Emjay you don't use the word normal because he is not considered a normal. There are different dominant pieds and he is a Double Factor. Kiko looks like a green not olive recessive pied. Beautiful birds.

First I really believe it depends on the individual situation. If I personally had an outdoor aviary (some do acheive this with an indoor aviary) with budgies they would be flighted. To me the purpose of the large aviary is to give them the sense of living in the "wild" vs being companion to their owner. I do have a flight cage "aviary" style but I purchased it for the purpose of giving them a lot of room while I wasn't home. Pretty was in a small cage and after being a part of this forum it wasn't really approriate for such a wonderful companion. Since both my birds are considered to me companions where I seek a different type of companionship such as sitting on my shoulder, perching on my finger etc...there is taming involved. I purchased Pretty clipped and he was the only budgie for 9 months this was a great advantage to taming him before we added a second budgie into our home. Pretty was flighted and tamed but the only one. He did get naughty at time and many times I thought about getting him clipped again only to hesistate and work with keeping him tame. This is not for some there are some on this forum that their budgies are flighted and extremely tame and they have more then 1 budgie these budgies from my own observations also grew up different then Pretty. They were hand tamed right from the nest vs Pretty being in a pet shop for 3 month of his life with not a lot of human interaction. Then we got Merlin he was clipped when I got him too and Pretty was flighted. Merlin was already used to human contact and since he is the show type a much calmer personality too not as flightly as Pretty. Pretty and Merlin when they were both flighted become very independent. Pretty stayed tame to an extent but usually when he wanted to he was in control because he could fly. When they are clipped you are in control and they rely on you. When Pretty died I did get Merlin reclipped for the main purposes of taming him down more. Merlin was Pretty's sidekick and when Pretty would fly Merlin would fly (Laughing out loud) it was comical. Now Merlin is already getting flights back can you imagine and he is starting to get lift again. The avian vet when through why he believes budgies (birds) should be clipped and safety is a huge one. Is is safer from flying quickly and slamming into a wall and breaking his neck (which happens with aviary budgies too), flying right out the door, flying into a ceiling fan when moving if it wasn't shut off. The only think Merlin truly needs to fly from in my house is the cats and they are always locked out of my room when Merlin is out. Exercise is another issue but then again because they are flighted doesn't mean they will fly more there are many budgies that are glued to their owners and don't fly about. I believe there are so many factors to consider. I typed this up quickly so I apologize for any grammical or spelling errors .

OMG how cute he doesn't look much bigger then a budgie.

As with the other is this a budgie? Budgies are not known pluckers unless they have an underlying illness. The pink and scaly part is that on the beak or chest? Does your friend have a computer where she can post a picture of her bird? Know we are not avian vets or vet so we can help assist in telling you or your friend what needs to be done but we can not give a definite diagnosis or treatment.

This is natural instinct if you like him flighted it is one thing that you will have to deal with as this is their nature. Offering treats to entince them back to you is what I did with Pretty. Pretty full flighted was a stinky bird to say the least. They gain their independence.

not the most flattering picture of Blinks but always gorgeous as always. Great pics and I do like the marching that is great

Looks wonderful and he looks just like Merlin's twin (Laughing out loud)