Elly

Just like kids all budgies are different. You must remember that you took her away from her family what she knew was safe and now she is in a cage alone with 2 huge figures staring at her and hands trying to touch her. If a bird doesn't trust humans all he sees when the hands come toward them is a predator trying to grab them. They will jump on after awhile because they have no choice but it is not because they want too but give-up. Work with your bird on trust. Here is an article from our FAQ section that talks about how I trained Pretty who was just about as old as your bird and came from a pet store, it took me a while to gain his trust and it may take you 2 week sor 9 months like it did me. But when you look at how long they live it is worth those months of patience. The article http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/faqs/i...&artlang=en 4 year olds are scary to birds, they make a lot of movements, have a hard time sitting still, and are scared the bird is going to bite them (that is how my kids where), so I would work with her on your own when your 4y is napping or not around because first she needs to trust just 1 person. As for getting a 2nd budgie if you want her to be tamed as in on your shoulder, talking to you, on your fingers etc...I would NOT get another budgie until you have completely bonded with her because it will not help the situation you will then have 2 scared budgies and that is even harder to work with. Patience, commitment is the key and not using your hands so much but your voice.

Yes Do you have a convertable?

Great job Neat

can't wait to see them

Make sure you quarantine your newest bird (s) for 30 days that is very important. If you have 1 bird or 3 birds if you don't spend the time they will revert to their more "wild" self . Your tame one will probably always be tamed but most likely will not be as interested in you as he is now. If you are going to add to your flock, I would keep the number even too so everyone has someone to chat with. Also you need to think different sexes. If you don't want a chance of eggs, I would get another male. I had 2 males they were BEST friends. Here is an article from our FAQ's that I copy and pasted here for you to read too. I have been thinking about getting a second budgie, is this a good idea? Getting a second budgie could very well be a good idea, but only if you think it over carefully and prepare. Here are some things you should think about: Any new bird must be quarantined for a minimum of thirty days so that you can monitor him for illness. Avian vets suggest a longer quarantine of 90 days. A well bird check up during this time is a very good idea with an avian vet. You can also use this time to bond with the new bird so that it is tame before introduced to your other budgie. It is much harder to tame a bird that is already housed with another bird. Read: Quarantine Program Not all budgies will get along. Most are okay, but introductions must be carefully supervised to ensure that the two birds will not harm each other. In the event that your budgies don't get along, you must be prepared to house them separately. Many budgies who refuse to harmoniously share a cage will often do okay during out of cage time. However, this is not always the case. You may very well end up having to give your new budgie his own spacious cage and make time to give the two birds separate time out of the cage. Speaking of which, a second budgie means a little more expense. Vet care, extra food, and an extra cage (at least for quarantine) must be taken into consideration or a bigger cage to house both birds comfortably. If you find your birds are arguing and not getting along check to make sure the size of the cage is big enough to accomodate two budgies. The most costly of all these is of course, vet care. Can you comfortably afford vet care for the bird you already have? If not, it would probably be wise not to add to the flock right now. Lastly, make sure you really want that second bird too. If your biggest motivation is providing a budgie friend for your current bird then you might end up frustrated and disappointed if they don't get along. Basically, make sure you have the time, patience, money, space, and desire to comfortably take care of a second budgie, even in the event that the two birds do not get along. Another note is that two males will get along better than a male and a female. Females tend to boss and rule over males, who will more readily back. Getting two of the same sex birds will also prevent accident breeding and eggs being layed especially if you do not desire to breed.

does she eat the millet when it is in the cage? eating food is a step because once they do that means they trust you, birds don't take food unless they feel comfortable.

welcome, glad she is settling in nicely

Yes (I feel I work hard even though I am a stay at home mom ) Can you type over 70 words per minuute?

Incredible craftmenship, I love it great job

could be both Neat , I just woke UP it is 7AM here

Love it , great deal, that are the same in price around here too.

Welcome to the forum, we look forward to meeting your flock, and thank you for sharing this website with us.

I agree I believe he is a spangle he does have the clear tail feathers as a spangle would

I agree there is no doubt a male

thank you Kozzie

yes they are hulling their seed, meaning they are getting the shell covering off and then eating the seed.

lol, my husband is a deer hunter, I bet he would think so too but we can't shoot them where we live.

I think a small travel cage is better for ventilation and you can put some wet greens in there for food and water but keep the cage covered with a light sheet or towel, a box I would all do but for comfort I would say a travel carrier.

okay, they then have associated your hand with bad in the cage so you need to do this, they only come out once they jump on your hand work with the millet in your hand, I know what you are going through the same thing happened with Pretty and I because I didn't realize what I had done. All you have to do is grab them like once and they associate it in the cage. You can feed the the millet only when they have jumped on your hand OR you can put your hand right where they come out and have the millet there where they have to jump on your finger to come out. It is not that you can't teach them step-up it is that they associate grabbing in the cage which makes them freak.

he is a very nice looking bird

Do they like millet AV? If so what you do is run the millet on the table slowly and let them get a few bites and then put your hand flat on the table and run the millet over them and then before they can have the millet they have to cross your hand to get the millet. Slowly after they do that you can start with raising your hand and when you jump up you say good boy and give it to them then you start working with the finger. It is fear, because you have grabbed them with your hand they see it as nothing good from your hand (not you). Once you let them go it is all done and they love you but the remember the hand grabbing them and no bird likes to be grabbed. So I suggest to stop the grabbing and work with fingers and millet to get them to trust your hand. I know this from experience with Pretty, I grabbed him a couple times and then the only way he would come to me is on his own according or if I had millet I had to erase the grabbing memory it take a week BUT don't do it again and be patience or you will be at square 1 again.

They never have a chance to find out lol but I have seen a show that deer and other animals when they eat too much of ferminated apples or fruit they can get drunk.

Go Fish (I believe there are phases of disaster we are on our 6th one per the National Geographic Channel) Have you been married more then 1x?

had to jump into the post lol and say what a cute pictures they look very happy and settled

CLICK HERE here is an example of a male recessive pied & lacewing hen (where also in the male the cere doesn't change) CLICK HERE All about Ceres, these ceres remind me of the young baby hen that Kaz is displaying in her 2nd post in this post.