Blue feet. I was wondering if any of you guys bred your birds based on the colour of their feet.

I have 12 birds now and 3 have blue feet, 3 have pink feet and 6 have grey feet (lighter than blue almost pink).

Looking at it, it seems that the gene must be co-dominant, however when looking at breeding history this does not seem to be the case.

Saffy had pink feet and Izzy has grey feet (looks like pink with a grey pink, I will refer to these as grey)

They had 6 babies in total.

2 of those babies have blue feet, 2 were pink footed and 2 were grey footed.

The two blue footed ones are spangles. However one of the blue footed ones' other brother looks identical to him, but has grey feet ( I tell them apart by their feet!)

Interestingly there were two cinnamons in that lot, however this does not dictate foot colour (as one had pink feet and the other grey). I have found that the 2 opalines spangles have pink feet. Yet my unrelated opaline has grey feet. So maybe so far, colour of feet does not link to body colour as of yet.

Emmett is my other blue footed budgie. He is unrelated to all my other budgies apart from Butters who he is the father of.

Emmett a blue foot mated with Saffy a pink foot to produce Butters a grey foot.

Going on to the other family that I have, The Arkady/Isis family. (this is difficult as Arkady has since passed away and so has Saffy so I can't look at their feet and have to go through photos)

Arkady and Isis both have grey feet and they had 2 chicks together. A pink footed thing and a grey footed thing.

 

I find this very interesting and am trying to figure out the genetics behind it. Whether it is controlled by one gene or controlled by several, that each, put together, add a little bit more darkness to the foot.

I'm going to go get some pictures of said feet. But if anyone has any theories on it post away. I find it fascinating and would one day like to breed blue feet.

Sorry camera is completely flat. I'll just work with some already existing pictures.

Edited December 10, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

Foot colour is partly linked to the colour of the bird. Mutations such as recessive pied and ino will have pink feet

I have neither recessive pieds or inos yet I have pink feet. Typically I don't already have a picture of my male with the bluest feet so we'll just have to work with that.

 

This will be a bit of fun trying to work it out. I love a good mystery.

Edited December 10, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

I have neither recessive pieds or inos yet I have pink feet. Typically I don't already have a picture of my male with the bluest feet so we'll just have to work with that.

 

This will be a bit of fun trying to work it out. I love a good mystery.

i read it has to do with colour and somewhere else read it was a sighn they hold violet but personlly i dont think the violet thing is true but alot of my blue greys mauves and 1factor viloets do have grey blue looking feet i was going to ask this question myself im glad you brought this up cause i heared dom pies are ment to have pink feet but i have some with blue grey feet so ...

Yea I find it interesting. I mean I have 2 birds that look exactly the same, yet one has blue feet and the other has grey feet.

okay so here are my pics:

Pink feet

 

Grey Feet

 

Blue feet

 

Contrast between pink and blue feet

 

okay so now my mutations that belong to each foot colour and breeding history.

 

Saffy has pink feet and is a DF spangle YF2 hen

 

She bred with Izzy:

Izzy has grey feet and is a sky blue normal cock split for cinnamon, opaline and full body grey wing

 

To produce:

Albert with blue feet who is a YF2 cobalt spangle cock.

I don't have any adult pictures of his brother cereal. BUt they look exactly the same, yet Cereal has grey feet.

Albert and Cereal together

 

Albert as baby. Blue feet develop young I see

 

Itha has grey feet. She is a cobalt YF2 spangle cinnamon hen.

 

Bacardi has pink feet. She is a violet YF2 opaline cinnamon spangle hen

 

Kito has pink feet. She is a cobalt YF2 opaline spangle hen

 

Alo has blue feet. He is a cobalt, full body colour grey wing spangle cock

 

Then I bred Arkady to Isis

 

Arkady has grey feet. He is a YF2 (or golden face?) sky blue normal cock split for opaline and full body colour grey wing.

 

Isis has grey feet and she is a YF2, mauve spangle full body colour grey wing hen

 

They had 2 chicks:

 

Nikio has grey feet and she is a violet opaline hen.

 

Robbie has pink feet and he is a YF2, skyblue, full body colour greywing, spangle cock

 

Then I bought Emmett from a pet shop and bred him with Saffy (Actually they did it with out my asking).

 

Emmett has blue feet and is a bright green spangle cock

 

Butters is his son with Saffy:

Butters has grey feet and is a DF spangle cock of the yellow series.

 

I couldn't find any good pictures of Saffy's feet, so she could have had grey feet, but I am sure that she had pink feet.

 

Sorry if that was too many pictures to swallow. But everyone else feel welcome to post your budgie family pictures and theories.

Edited December 10, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

I don't believe the violet gene has anything to do with it, Merlin is a violet and had pink greyish feet, I love the dark blue feet though

In the budgerigar standard that Daz posted a link to, it will show which colour feet are expected for which mutation budgie

Ooo thanks Kaz, that sounds awesome

Edited December 10, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

wow now its made me want to look at the feet

I'll go check out the standard too... this is something I have been very interested in... I wonder if any colour is actually dominant?? Maybe cocks that are split for certain genes can be picked by foot colouration??? Wow... so much to find out :laughter:

Well it seems that blue feet is not dominant as it appears out of pairings of non blue footed birds.

but couldn't that mean that it was sex linked?? like the male was split blue feet??

Well, blue feet has only appeared in my males so far.

Maybe pink feet is sex linked. That makes more sense, however it doesn't explain how a blue footed boy then got two blue genes from his parents who between them had only 1 blue foot gene.

It would make way more sense if Saffy had grey feet, but I'm sure she had pink feet.

That's why I was wondering if anyone else had genetics of feet for their flock.

 

I am thinking that grey footed birds would be split. But whether they are split for blue feet or pink feet is the key. But it seems to work as a co domininat thing.

However it the colour relied on many genes, then those theories are shot.

So far all my blue foots have these things in common:

They are boys and they are spangles. That is it.

My pink feets are all spangles and yellowfaces.

Edited December 13, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

okay, well I have about 45 birds in my record system with a photo on every record so if anyone wants me to I'll post a full list with all the foot colours and feather colour/mutation

Sure that'll be very interesting.

Make tiny pictures like I did.

Edited December 13, 200816 yr by Sailorwolf

well here are the feet of my massive flock... I know its a very long list and I'm sure it will provide the information that you desperately need... :budgiedance:

 

Green Spangle hen

 

 

Green Series Lacewing hen

 

Edited December 14, 200816 yr by JimmyBanks

Stink! My stupid fire wall isn't letting me see your pictures

well lip (green spangle hen is grey maybe blue)

 

and len (green series lacewing hen is pink)

 

pink would make sense with the lacewing as its close to the ino...

 

As for your firewall... I did a fair pit of editing because everytime I posted it came up as the original picture not the smal picture... and the original was massive... are they working now?

Edited December 14, 200816 yr by JimmyBanks

No they are not working for me .

Yes it seems that pink feet belong to the fairer colours, or with birds with more mutations, but not consistently and blue feet with birds of less mutations? Maybe?

here are the links...

 

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg237/J...241108037-1.jpg -lip

 

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg237/J...241108037-3.jpg -len

 

On a side not... I've now posted the same amount as my birth year...

Edited December 14, 200816 yr by JimmyBanks

Yes. My fire wall is blocking it. It says your pictures are rated as pornography!!! Lol. Jimmy What are you not telling us!?

 

I will try to correct it.

But there vents are blocked by the perch you can't see anything I promise!!!

Haha. I sent off a request to have it rerated. Lets hope they give it a better rating than "category 4: pornography"!

Is anyone else having difficulty viewing my pictures???

no jimmy but mate are they hot i can see why they got stuck under **** my birds are going bonkers ...lolno jimmy but mate are they hot i can see why they got stuck under **** my birds are going bonkers ...lolwhat am i doing and why are my words being stared over i only wrote **** thats not rudei will look at my birds feet spangle wize and see if my ones conect okay sailor and get bck as it interests me also