Posted April 1, 200619 yr Hey guys! As you know, i really want to breed budgies again, and i dont think my oldest male Chicos wants to! The other male Kirby is hated by the hen who i want to breed, so that cant work out...If i were to get a green male from the breeder (he has no more adult male blues), and bred him to the recessive white cinnamon, violet pied, what 'kind' of green male would i need to have blue babies? Would i need an olive male, a lime green, an opaline?, a normal? A cinnamon?....or what! So, ill try to post a picture of another members bird that is what i like, since the breeder has male closest to the camera, if bred to my white recessive pied hen could i get blues? P1010309.jpg Thanks!
April 1, 200619 yr To get a blue bird, you need to have 1. A blue bird or 2. a Green bird that is proven to be split to blue (you won't know for sure unless the bird has been breed or if for a fact 1 of the parents was a blue and 1 of the parents was a not split to blue bird - meaning it carry 2 green genes. If that is the case all the babies would be split to blue and they would all be visually green. Make sense? If you breed your recessive pied to your green bird you would get all normals unless the green bird was split to pied (again you wouldn't know unless you knew for a fact that one of the parts was a recessive pied and again then all the babies would be split to recessive pied). I hope I told you right there...I believe so.
April 1, 200619 yr Author Thanks lovey, you have become a professional overngiht!...(Laughing out loud) So, to sum it up, i would need a male who has made blue babies before, or one that has made pieds before? Would an olive green not mean that hes split to blue?..same with a green that has a lot of blue in the plumage?....The breeder has several lime green opalines, olive greens, normals greens, and a stunning dominant pied blue cinnamon male that i was going to get, but he wants to keep it now... ..(Laughing out loud) Kirby
April 1, 200619 yr Thanks lovey, you have become a professional overngiht!...(Laughing out loud) So, to sum it up, i would need a male who has made blue babies before, or one that has made pieds before? Would an olive green not mean that hes split to blue?..same with a green that has a lot of blue in the plumage?....The breeder has several lime green opalines, olive greens, normals greens, and a stunning dominant pied blue cinnamon male that i was going to get, but he wants to keep it now... ..(Laughing out loud) Kirby A professional overnight not quite, did a lot of bugging Nerwen, Rainbow and Hurdy i would need a male who has made blue babies before, or one that has made pieds before? YES Would an olive green not mean that hes split to blue?..same with a green that has a lot of blue in the plumage?. NO Olive green means that the bird has 2 dark factors - nothing to do with the blue gene. Green budgies have a yellow base. As for the blue feathers in a green bird, the body feathers are structured to reflect blue. In yellow-based budgies the blue in the body feathers combines with the yellow base pigment, which results in a bright green. (I hope this explanation makes sense)
April 1, 200619 yr Author Yes it does!!!...thanks a lot lovey! So....hmmm...now i need to find a adult split to blue male! I dont know if he has any! All i know is blue is my favourite! Blue spangle that is, but im not getting any from this bunch. So, i think i will try Ariel (white recessive pied bred to the male she likes now named Chico a yellow faced blue type II oplaine recessive pied...and try to see if they weill have fertile eggs this time. If not, then i will buy another male! Hopefully they do have fertile babies becuase last time i put the nest box in, they werent really bonded, and she just laid the eggs...this time, when i put it in, they have started to preen eachother, and are acting more 'married' then before. They NEVER use to preen, or hardly ever feed eachother, even once the infertile eggs were laid...so this is a good sign that they are preening, AND feeding, AND shes in the nesting box a lot now!!!...So, wish me luck!!!...as i know Chico will be the BEST and proudest dad ever, and Ariel will be the most annoying, yet wonderful mother ever!..lo Kirby
April 1, 200619 yr Yes, I bet you will have more success this time for sure, it sounds like it!! For Spangles remember you need to have at least 1 Spangle (dominate gene).
April 1, 200619 yr Author yay thanks lovey! I do think i will have more success this time! Chico was too afriad of mounting Ariel before, even though she went into the 'U' shape probably 7-8 times a day that i saw! And i was at school for 6 hours!...so who knows how many times shes done it for him! They are sitting there right now preening, singing, and flying around the nice new cage! I know its usualy a big NO NO!!! But ive added the nest box for Chico and Ariel and the 3 other birds in the new HUGE cage! They seem to be more comfortable for some reason! Ans Ariels more interested in Chico now more than ever! The other guys leave them alone, and the nest box, so i think this setup will be fine. Is any fight occurs, i will move them out..or divide the cage agaib with the grate tray that is used at the bottom of the cage that i simply wedge tightly in between the middle section of the cage, and tide it down with lots of twisties, and metal wire to make t 100% safe for everyone! Kirby
April 2, 200619 yr Author who else thinks they will mate??? unlike last time..and have real babies???... Kirby
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