If you breed two yellowfaceII's do you end up with yellowfaceII babies? I used the genetics calculator (think I used it right) and it said yes, but I recall reading somewhere that I would end up with white faced babies.

A double factor yellow face are visually white faced. But know because Yellow Face is dominant they can be split for white face so because you breed two yellow faces doesn't meant that you will only get white faces. Not knowing the background of their genetics and parents it will be trial and error.

There are a few senarios.. if they are truely yellowface type 2's, then either could be single or double factor. I've read a few things that are leading me to believe that sometimes we are mistaking yf1's for yf2's, because as far as I know its not the distribution of the yellow on the birds (just head -- or bleeds into the body), but the intensity of the yellow that makes them what they are. But I could be wrong.

 

Say that they are both single factor yf2 - then you could get 50% single factor yf2 , 25% double factor yf2 , and 25% blue

 

Double factor yf2's have yellow faces (sometimes mistaken for goldenfaces) ...... double factor goldenfaces have yellow faces ..... double factor yf1's have white faces.

 

If one of the yf2's was double factor and the other was single factor, then you could get 50% double factor yf2 and 50% single factor yf2

 

If both of the yf2's are double factor then you would get 100% double factor yf2's

Confused - yes I am?!? I've been assuming my Wylie and Star are both YF2 based on the fact that their main body colour is a turquoise/aqua and I can see the yellow bleed in both of them, especially Wylie now that he is molting. But Star's face is a much lighter yellow than Wylie's - although his may molt out lighter I guess. Tazzy's wing feathers were outlined in yellow but the new feathers are coming in outlined in white. Star's wing feathers are outlined in white. So if I'm understanding you correctly maybe they are both single factor YF2???

 

I've thought about these two as a possible breeding pair someday so I was curious about what the outcomes might be.

 

Shawna from those photos I believe they are YF1 type 1

 

Here is a type II

 

 

A type II has a "Bleed" that changes the blue to a green. In fact Chime here is a golden Face the yeloow is more buttercup. But it will give you an example.

No I think Shawna is right I can see the bleed coming in on Wylie not 100% sure on Star still. One thing to keep in mind is once you join the yf1 and yf 2 it's hard to tell what is what and to break the mix apart again.

No I think Shawna is right I can see the bleed coming in on Wylie not 100% sure on Star still. One thing to keep in mind is once you join the yf1 and yf 2 it's hard to tell what is what and to break the mix apart again.

 

It's my poor old colour blind eyes...

Here is a much better picture of Wylie. I brought him out today and he didn't freak too much - I'm so impressed.

 

 

Star is unclipped and I don't think I can get her to get a better picture. Star doesn't have anything like this bleeding into her chest. I'm assuming she has been through at least one molt. I really have no idea of her age but assume she is under a year.

 

 

So it wouldn't be a good idea to breed these two? Or is that just if I'm concerned about being able to distinguish if bubs are YF1 or YF2?

Since this is for your enjoyment only I wouldn't see the fuss about it this is the ideal piar you want to make I was just informing.

 

Looking again I think Star is a yellowface typw two and Wylie might be a goldenface.

If the photo is right. Nerwen is right Wyllie is a golden face.

 

If you mate them you should expect. Golden Faces.