how can i make english budiges because i have read that u you breed budiges to make englsih one. how can i make mine breed to have the enlgish verirty

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: Please dont use short cuts Shant.

Edited March 23, 200619 yr by daz

I assume you mean breeding "american" type budgies( the kind you usually see in pet stores) to get english budgies?

 

theres a pretty big difference between the types, in some cases it's just size, there are two types of english budgie, pet quality and exhibition quality, there is only one type of "american" budgie, you cannot breed a pair of "american" budgies to get english budgies unless you want to do it the way they were developed many years ago, but that would take several decades if not longer, you'd be better off trying to create a white face green budgie

this site has pictures of "american type" and some pretty nice english budgies http://www.bellaonline.com/ArticlesP/art6625.asp

hahaha dang they are huge compared to a normal budige how do i breed my american budgies to obtain a english

Guys I think you mean Pet budgies and Show Budgies. All budgies are australian.

 

You can not breed this

http://www.flexi.net.au/~dwellsadsl/Images/Chirpy2.jpg

 

In to this

http://www.flexi.net.au/~dwellsadsl/Images/ash.jpg

 

Over night.

 

This will take decades. You would be best to start with this

http://www.flexi.net.au/~dwellsadsl/Images/Bluey.jpg

 

and work up to this

http://www.flexi.net.au/~dwellsadsl/birds/...%20-4%20126.jpg

 

Professional Breeders buy in out crosses. Budgies that have traits that they want in their birds.

 

 

 

Note: These are all my birds.

Edited March 23, 200619 yr by daz

QUOTE>>>>>Guys I think you mean Pet budgies and Show Budgies. All budgies are australian.

Agreed Daz. Budgies began in Australia...didn't they ??!!

Yep, they did originate here, but in America they seem to call them by different names to us

everyone seems to get mad when that name is used but there are 3 types of budgies; aus. wild budgies, american budgies and english budgies, why is it that people only get mad at the name american budgie, I recall there being a post with the 3 different weights of the 3 different types, I agree they are all the same species (Melopsittacus undulatus) - but thats the species as a whole, is there any proof as to where "pet store" budgies originated from, or where in AUS they were developed?

it's no different than dog breeds, they are all Canis familiaris but there are several hundred different types.

 

"Some budgies have been bred down in size but with

a greater number of color mixes. They are generally

"aviary bred" in groups, and are referred to as

American Budgies. Others have been selectively chosen

and bred up, with a more pronounced forehead and larger

overall size. These birds are referred to as English

Budgies. Both American and English budgies are the same

birds, but bred differently for different purposes."

 

"Budgerigars are often, and mistakenly, referred to as parakeets. Originating in Australia, Budgies were imported to England where breeders took painstaking measures to develop color strains and bloodlines that were as pure as possible. As a result, English Budgies are often referred to as an Exhibition Budgie. What is commonly referred to as the American Budgie is considered in the trade to be more of a pet than a breeder exhibiting pure lines. They are the same species and both are a good deal larger than their native Australian counterparts."

 

"There are English and American varieties of budgies in addition the to budgies from their native country, Australia. The English Budgie is larger than its Australian and American counterparts and is most commonly seen in shows. They are a lot less active than their American cousins. The American versions are those most commonly seen in pet stores in the United States and Canada"

 

there were many more quotes from other sites but I think this post is long enough.

dingo what would you call an english pet budgie then as these are the same as the so called american budgie but completely different from english show budgie that is why i call then show and pet not english and american

dingo what would you call an english pet budgie then as these are the same as the so called american budgie but completely different from english show budgie that is why i call then show and pet not english and american

 

I never get mad at the reference. Good point Hath.

actually all of the english pet quality budgies I have seen are different than american budgies in size, as I said in my first post they can be distinguished by exhibition english and pet quality english, the same is used with poultry, it's really quite simple.

 

if there was no difference between english pet quality budgies and american budgies than why would you call them english to begin with?

Edited March 24, 200619 yr by Dingo

Hath, I think it's mainly size. The larger budgies, whether pet quality or exhibition quality, are referred to as "English" over here. The smaller version (which is more common here) is what is referred to as "American" budgies. I agree they are all the same bird, and the comparison with canines makes sense to me as far as the differentiation goes.

 

I don't agree with the quote that they are mistakenly called parakeets. They ARE parakeets, which are then subdivided further into the grouping of budgerigar. They are also parrots.

 

shant, if you want "English" budgies, best start off with a pair of "English" budgies.

Edited March 24, 200619 yr by Rainbow

rainbow that was just a quote I got off a site, it was only an example, also forgot to add one of those sites was AUS based.

Well, it makes sense if you think about it. :ausb: Saying that the exhibition birds have been 'bred up' to meet the standard that was chosen and that they have been bred for different purposes is probably accurate. Most of the "American" or 'pet' quality American budgies I see do not have big spots, or big heads, or do not have the straighter stance of the birds I see in pictures of "champion budgies". They are smaller, have less rounded heads, some have dropped tails, small spots, or whatever would disqualify them from the standard, but make perfect pets for those that have no desire to show. I happened to like the comparison about all dogs being of the genus canis but having several hundred varieties. Granted, there are not several hundred varieties of budgies, but I can see the similarities in the comparison.

sicne we are talkin about rare breeds how can this be made http://www.ozbird.com/oz/BirdsGallery/images/Mop.jpg hahaha looks very nice

Poor birdy, that's a feather duster budgie and it'll probably only live a few months. :ausb:

sicne we are talkin about rare breeds how can this be made http://www.ozbird.com/oz/BirdsGallery/images/Mop.jpg hahaha looks very nice

 

You don't want to breed one of those. :hap: Bea is right, they don't live long, they also can't fly and have many health issues. It is not something you try to breed on purpose.

Hath, I think it's mainly size. The larger budgies, whether pet quality or exhibition quality, are referred to as "English" over here. The smaller version (which is more common here) is what is referred to as "American" budgies.

rainbow most birds in the uk are small the same size as the so called american budgie you mainly see the larger birds from people who show ie exhibtion not english i have never seen a exhibition size budgie in a pet shop im saying you dont get them but they are rare to find so we cant really call them english if it has to do with size

 

if there was no difference between english pet quality budgies and american budgies than why would you call them english to begin with?

its certainly not to do with size

actually here in the states there are plenty of pet quality english budgies, same exact size as the exhibition english just lacking in the large forehead and mask feathers, infact the man I got my pied cock from breeds both exhibition and pet quality engish as well as american budgies, there is a difference between all 3 of the types, or subtypes, listed in this post.

Sounds like someone got some show budgies and breed them the wrong way. :ausb:

Hath, I think it's mainly size. The larger budgies, whether pet quality or exhibition quality, are referred to as "English" over here. The smaller version (which is more common here) is what is referred to as "American" budgies.

rainbow most birds in the uk are small the same size as the so called american budgie you mainly see the larger birds from people who show ie exhibtion not english i have never seen a exhibition size budgie in a pet shop im saying you dont get them but they are rare to find so we cant really call them english if it has to do with size

 

Exhibition sized are rare here too, but when we have them they are sold as English budgies. At the birds fairs I go to also, the large ones are sold as English, small ones have no distinction in name - just called budgies.

 

if there was no difference between english pet quality budgies and american budgies than why would you call them english to begin with?

its certainly not to do with size

 

hath, maybe that means you have American budgies over there in your pet stores?

:ausb:

Edited March 26, 200619 yr by Rainbow

All this talk of English and American... We have Pet budgies and Show Budgies... Easy

 

 

 

Edit: Sorry and Bush Budgies...can't forget the little ones. :dbb1:

Edited March 26, 200619 yr by daz