I stumbled on this site today. Has anyone used this?

 

Genetics Calculator

Interesting. I put up Ash and Crystal.

 

Ash is a SF Grey

Crystal is a type I sky blue.

 

 

I got this ?

 

1.0 grey(sf) green cinnamon x 0.1 blueII

 

% from all 1.0

50.0% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blueII cinnamon

50.0% 1.0 green /blueII cinnamon

 

% from all 0.1

50.0% 0.1 grey(sf) green cinnamon /blueII

50.0% 0.1 green cinnamon /blueII

 

Calculated on 17 Mar 2006 03:46:53 , Prague

 

blue II is a type I Sky blue (Yellowface Skyblue)

 

Nerwen notice the cock Green split to Yellowface Split to Cinnamin. Thats what I worked out.

The wild gene still plays a part. - Interesting.

That's interesting.. I haven't seen it before.. saw one for lovebirds before.. but it was less detailed. I wonder why the males are 1.0 and the females .1

 

Daz.. I think that you still need to check blue for Ash.. as well as grey. It's kind of strange.. It looks like if the yellowface type 1 is single factor you have to check off the blue II spot as well as a blue spot in the column right next to it.. so that it would be blueII split to blue. Otherwise it treats it as a double factor blueII (yellowface type one)

 

1.0 grey(sf) blue cinnamon

x 0.1 blueBlueII

 

% from all 1.0

25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /cinnamon

25.0% 1.0 blue /cinnamon

25.0% 1.0 grey(sf) blueBlueII /cinnamon

25.0% 1.0 blueBlueII /cinnamon

% from all 0.1

25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blue cinnamon

25.0% 0.1 blue cinnamon

25.0% 0.1 grey(sf) blueBlueII cinnamon

25.0% 0.1 blueBlueII cinnamon

 

the blueBlueII hybrid is what we've been referring to as yellowface type 1 birds.

 

I've read this article that talks about that concept. I found it interesting. http://www.birdhobbyist.com/parrotcolour/peter/yface01.html

Edited March 17, 200619 yr by HurdyBirdy

seems VERY accurate from what Hurdybirdy, and Nerwen told me about my pairs that i will setup. So, yes, i think its accurate, and is right...

 

Kirby

yes I've known abuot this site for a while and used it, it take a bit to work out at first and you need to have some understand of muations to click the right things.

 

Hurdy is right you need to tick the blue AND the grey for a grey bird or else it take it as greygreen. If blue isn't ticked the green is usd for everything. Oh just looked at the form again and there isnt a type1 choice. Well it works the same as the type2 so use that one.

 

Not sure how you got cinnamon, make sure before you start to reset the form becuase it keeps your last clicked option.

Edited March 17, 200619 yr by Nerwen

.... the only problem with that is you can get a blue grey. What do you do for that one?

 

When you breed greys you can get Greens, Blues, Grey Greens and Greys.

The only time you don't get this variety is when pairing two DF Greys. You get Greys.

Blue Greys???? do you mean mauve?

 

They are bues with two darkfactores so you would pick the dark button for df. the sf is for cobalt.

Oh just looked at the form again and there isnt a type1 choice. Well it works the same as the type2 so use that one

 

There is a choice for yellowface type one. They call it blue 2 or blue II. The article I linked explains why a lot better than I could.. but in short the theory is that since a double factor yellowface type 1 has a white face, it isn't really a yellowface gene, but a different blue gene. Double factor yellowface type 2 and golden faces do have yellow faces (as do goldenfaces split for yellowface type 2) Instead of a yellowface type 1 gene, it's saying that there are 2 different "types" of blue - common blue which is b1b1 and b2b2(double factor yellowface type one). When those 2 different blue genes get together for a b1b2 that's when you get a "yellowface type 1". Both b1 and b2 are defective.. they don't produce a yellow pigment.. but when you put them together they balence eachothers weaknesses and some yellow is produced.

 

It's interesting that the calculator above is using blue II instead.. but the results are the same reguardless of what you call it.

 

if you take a double factor yellowface type 1 yf1yf1 and a blue bb.. you'll get all yf1b (yellowface type 1 single factor)

 

or if you take a blue II b2b2 with a blue b1b1 .. you'll get all b2b1 (yellowface type 1 single factor)

I must not be using it right. I plugged in what I thought Rainbow and Skittles were, but didn't end up with what I actually ended up with ( if that makes sense... )

(Laughing out loud) Yes becuase I got the same thing But I looked at it and tryed some easy pairings. and worked it out ( i think)

You have to put in all the right data otherwise the whole thing goes bezerk! When you go to the original site you'll see that they have it for all kinds of parrots as well. I am very surprised this thing is new to you its been around for quite a while. http://www.gencalc.com/

I'll stick to the book and to my Bird traker Program.

I'll stick to the book and to my Bird traker Program.

 

 

What book do you use Daz?

A guide to colour Mutations and Genetics in Parrots.

 

It's sometimes helpful. Just remember to put the male's info in the left side and the females the other.

this stuff is soooooooooo over my head...

 

altho id love to learn

 

just cant get a grip

I agree Belco. This sort of stuff is just too complicated.

I went onto the site and didnt understand what to put where?????

I am willing to learn tho

kt

http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=6992

 

Try here for lesson about the different mutations.

I just checked out this calculator-

 

1.0 grey(sf) green spangle(sf) /blue

x 0.1 D blue pallid(Tex.clearbody)

% from all 1.0

6.25% 1.0 grey(sf) green /blue pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 grey(sf) green spangle(sf) /blue pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 green /blue pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 green spangle(sf) /blue pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 grey(sf) blue /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 grey(sf) blue spangle(sf) /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 blue /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 blue spangle(sf) /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D grey(sf) blue spangle(sf) /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D blue /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D blue spangle(sf) /pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D grey(sf) green /blue(T2) pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D grey(sf) green spangle(sf) /blue(T2) pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D green /blue(T2) pallid(Tex.clearbody)

6.25% 1.0 D green spangle(sf) /blue(T2) pallid(Tex.clearbody)

 

% from all 0.1

6.25% 0.1 grey(sf) green /blue

6.25% 0.1 grey(sf) green spangle(sf) /blue

6.25% 0.1 green /blue

6.25% 0.1 green spangle(sf) /blue

6.25% 0.1 grey(sf) blue

6.25% 0.1 grey(sf) blue spangle(sf)

6.25% 0.1 blue

6.25% 0.1 blue spangle(sf)

6.25% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue

6.25% 0.1 D grey(sf) blue spangle(sf)

6.25% 0.1 D blue

6.25% 0.1 D blue spangle(sf)

6.25% 0.1 D grey(sf) green /blue(T2)

6.25% 0.1 D grey(sf) green spangle(sf) /blue(T2)

6.25% 0.1 D green /blue(T2)

6.25% 0.1 D green spangle(sf) /blue(T2)

 

Calculated on 01 Feb 2014 15:42:42 , Prague

 

I'm not sure why you would breed a grey green spangle with a blue series texas clearbody but it sure does confuse me... I take it the 1.0 are Cocks and the 0.1 are Hens...

Edited February 1, 201411 yr by JimmyBanks

Yep the 1.0 are cocks and the 0.1 are hens. Its interesting how much variety you get when you start playing with multiple mutations. Makes you realise that breeding with them should more be for fun than in expectation of a particular mutation being passed on. The expectations are just too small! Great site though.

Yeah it pretty amazing what the percentages are when you start messing around with them...

 

As a show breeder the more you know about a birds pedigree the better it is for you so that you can be more certain of what you are going to get. You might have a Spangle line and an albino line etc. etc. As a pet breeder it's not really an issue and more often than not they want variety so it helps that way.

 

It's one of those things that both can use for totally different purposes.