Has anyone successfully bread a parakeet into a solid blue? I just found out about the solid blue Amazon Parrot, and thought that would look really neat if parakeets were that color. I have several solid yellow, and solid white... I'm very curious now!

 

Thanks.

 

Dave

When you say solid blue, you mean all blue...no blacks, whites, or anything?...Thats not possible i dont think since blue is a dark factor, and markings are always present....right?

 

Kirby

It hasn't happened, not sure if it could. I was surpised with this question my friend asked me the same thing about two weeks ago

 

The closest I think you could get is a blue opaline Clearwing. That would still have some white markings on the wings and a white face.

This picture shows my yellow parakeet... (we had an opportunity to meet Seigfried & Roy, and just happened to have "Gilligan" with us... so he made it into the picture) I'd love to see a blue one that looks like this one. It would probably have white on its face like this one, but I'm not sure. I will be in one place for at least 2 years, so it would be great to at least start this process if it's something that can be done.

 

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Dave

Edited March 8, 200619 yr by DW1868

The trouble is there isn't any blue pigment in the head area on budgies once you remove the yellow pigments you are left with white unlike in the body of a budgie your left with blue. SOme call an ablino a blue lutino becuase you need to blue mutation and the ino mutation to create one (like your Lexi)

So you've got me thinking... now, I realize that Amazon Parrots, and parakeets are nothing alike, but this example raises some questions for me. I am not a scientist, and am very new to budgies, so I'm trying to figure everything out that I can. In the interest of trying to "make" a blue budgie, I offer these pictures.

 

The following picture is a Yellow Naped Amazon Parrot:

 

They were somehow able to mutate that bird, into this:

 

Can anyone offer an explanation of how this is possible? Maybe the same technique could be applied to budgies. (Please excuse me if I keep refering to them as parakeets. I found myself having to backspace several times during this post!)

Gee, I have no idea! I'm sure Nerwen is off doing some research as we speak. I know what you mean about calling birds by different names. Where I live cockatiels are called Weero's, and it took me forever to call them the right name on the net. I now talk about 'tiels, and people look at me strangely

it looks to me to be the same thing, the nape on the blue amazon is white which means they removed the yellow which is how we got blue budgies, but instead of having a white nape they have a white head.

Yeah What you are seeing in that parrot is the same blue mutation you see in budgies, that is th remove of the yellow. Becuase in parrots there isn't a green gene, simply blue and yellow ones combined. As DIngo said where you see only yellow in the normal coloured bird in the blue one it's white.

I guess easily explained you can't get a black zebra right? They are just not not possible (unless I am wrong on that), when reading through genetics. Budgies are either a yellow base or a white base, adding the blue to the yellow will make green and a budgie with a white base is just blue. Then there are other factors to make different mutations of the colors. Does that help? I am sure people are trying, just like right now that I know there is no such thing as a white faced green budgie - not genetically possible.

 

Great questions. - Beuatiful birds.

So basically, it would be possible to have an all blue budgie, but the head would be white? I think that makes sense... Is it possible to get rid of the stripes on the budgie's head and wings?

In the parrot family, big or small there are basically 2 types of pigment.

 

Melanine subdivided into:

eumelanin (black or dark brown)

phaeomelanine (reddish brown not found in budgerigars)

 

carotenoid or psittacin subdivided into:

Yellow carotenoid or psittacin

red carotenoid or psittacin (not found in budgies)

 

Melanine in budgies gives black, grey dark or light brown. If the barb of the feathers contains a blue structure on a white base you see a blue budgie. When the structure is on a yellow base you see a green budgie. All the mutations we know are based on this. The red eyes on inos, no melanine.The cinnamon reduction of eumelanin. Albino: only white structure. Pieds of all sort displacement of above "products". I just don't think were close to an all blue budgie yet but it is probably not impossible. You see your blue parrot has no blue structure on top of his head, if he had, the the spot would be green as well in the original amazone.

 

Don't think I am any smarter than you, just read those really great articles:

http://www.birdhobbyist.com/parrotcolour/

Edited March 9, 200619 yr by Martine

Wow! Thanks for the scientific study! This clears it up for me.

 

Thanks again!

Dave