I have asked this on a few different boards and I have many different answers so I thought I would ask you too. Here are a few pics: Ceaser, Jake, Petrie, Elwood, and Houdini

Houdini looks so huge in this picture!!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...budgies0007.jpg

 

 

Ceaser, and Petrie

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...210pets0008.jpg

 

 

Elwood, Houdini, and Jake

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...210pets0007.jpg

 

 

Ceaser has an iris ring but Petrie doesn't, and Ceaser has a darker blue than Petrie and Jake. Thanks

 

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Edited February 20, 200619 yr by daz

Going left to right in that very first picture, this is what I think: Type 2 yellowface dominant pied, Sky blue normal, Sky blue recessive pied, Sky blue dilute (a good shot of the wings would help on that one though; could be greywing), and if you have a shot of the last one's back I'm sure that will help. Or maybe the experts won't need it.

Edited February 19, 200619 yr by eterri

Yes, I have some food shots of their backs. Here they are:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...121bird0005.jpg

 

There is one of Elwood

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...121bird0006.jpg

 

And another.

 

Here is Houdini: I am pretty sure he is a green dilutre, because he was used on another site as an example of one, but other opinions aregreat.

Sort of a side/back view.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/mgr...budgies0005.jpg

 

 

And another of him.

 

Let me know if you need any more of te others, I have plenty of pics.

 

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Edited February 20, 200619 yr by daz

They do both look dilute to me but someone more knowledgeable might disagree. Either way, they're so pretty!

Here's what I think.

 

Ceaser - Yellowface type 2 sky blue dominant pied

Petrie - sky blue recessive pied

Jake - normal sky blue

Elwood - cobalt dilute

Houdini - light green dilute

 

I'm not positive if either Elwood or Houdini are dilute or greywing. It would be great if someone could explain the difference again.

I think Ceaser may be a type 2 goldenface instead of yellowface. The yellow is so much stronger on the head than anywhere else on her body.

Ceaser is a Yellowface type 2 sky blue dominant pied (or goldenface)

Petrie is a sky blue recessive pied

Jake is a normal blue

Elwood is a cobalt greywing

Houdini is harder to pick, he could be a clearwing or a poor dilute his body feathers seem diluted enough but his wings are not that pale.

If you look at Ceaser in the first picture her shade of blue is about the same as the 2 next to her. Shouldn't it have a more greenish tinge if she is a type 2 yellowface .. or is it just on my moniter? Or is it like that because she's pied?

Edited February 20, 200619 yr by HurdyBirdy

You have a good point, HurdyBirdy. I didn't really notice it until you pointed it out. The yellow band across her middle would be yellow since she is a yellowface. She could be a type 1.

 

Misty, any chance of another picture or two of Ceaser? Front and back maybe? Please?

No a type one yellowfaced pied has white on the body like a white faced pied does. There is a member with one around I will see if I can get the link for you.

The colour is aqua (ish) not a clear blue colour.

 

link: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index.php?showtopic=7872 see how the body bits are white.

Edited February 20, 200619 yr by Nerwen

Sorry about the origional photos, I'm still getting used to reducing the sizes. As for more pics of ceaser, here are some more. If you need anything else let me knopw I have tones of pics.

 

From the front..

From the side...

Another from the side (I love this picture of her!!)

From the back....I know this picture is not too clear but it really shows of her deep blue.

Her blue is alot darker than either Jake or Petrie so does that mean that she is a cobalt?

 

Also, in the last picture show her wings that we clipped by a so called "professional", I won't be going back there anytime soon. I have been studying the proceedure and will do it myself next time!!

 

Anyway I hope these pictures help!! Let me know if you need more of any of them.

Edited February 20, 200619 yr by Misty

she is just absolutely gorgeous

I don't know nerwen...I don't see any traces of green in her feathers at all. I think due to the pied gene with the yellowface the body color would be same as the head color. Ceaser's blue looks very blue. I think I will still go with type 1 goldenface on this one. Because with a type 1 or type 2 yellowface blue, the shell feathers are tipped in yellow and not white.

 

Misty, I love that hen!!!

Yeah I agree Rainobw, there isn't a hint of mixing in the blue which leads to yellowface type 1 (goldenface is only for the type 2 gene)

 

So this little bird has put me back to the way I was thinking is correct and that website (http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html) is wrong in it's statment about the white on the wings.

Hi Mel, they are still gorgeous!

Is Houdini still the little escape artist?

Karen you have know idea!! Not only is he an escape artist but now that he is mixed in with the rest of the flock he is teaching them his habits. Houdini was definitely the best name fro him. Now we have Jake trying to pull his antics of escaping, plus Jake has learned that if I have someone out and not him he goes to the food door and pulls it up and lets it fall making an awful racket!!! But I love them all even with their little antics.

 

Sorry about this but I am still a little confused, What is ceaser, or is that still up for debate?? I love her so much, and I have never seen one like her before. Thanks!!

I think we have agreed she is a yellowface type 1.

 

(besides super cute )