Posted February 14, 200619 yr I'm not sure if the pictures are clear enough to see it. If yes, what do you think? Mayo Juli Bambi PS: By the way - Mayo has got quite dark beak (the other two have dark brown spots on their beaks), is that common? Thanks Edited February 14, 200619 yr by Zebra
February 14, 200619 yr what cuties, I think it is too early to tell but I may be wrong. The black on the beaks is normal and will go away as they get older that I know.
February 14, 200619 yr Author Thank you lovey, I was just looking at budgiebird pictures of Kaya (who is about the same age as my chicks) and she knows Kaya is female, so I thought there could be some more signs to look at. I don't really mind if the're males or females (I'll keep them anyway ), but I've read that you should have either couples or more males, so the females don't fight for the males. So I would have to get more male budgies if they're females - I would actually love it (not sure about the rest of my family )
February 14, 200619 yr did she say she knew because Kaya inherited the cinnamon gene from the father, that would be 1 way through genetic mutations. I can't remember exactly what the post said. Coming back found the post, yes those two are cinnamons (the brown on the wings), and the father gives it to his daughters only, so that is way she knows for sure . Edited February 14, 200619 yr by lovey
February 14, 200619 yr Author did she say she knew because Kaya inherited the cinnamon gene from the father, that would be 1 way through genetic mutations. I can't remember exactly what the post said. Coming back found the post, yes those two are cinnamons (the brown on the wings), and the father gives it to his daughters only, so that is way she knows for sure . Wow that sound quite difficult . In "New pics in budgies pictures" Hurdybirdy told me that if daddy is opaline and mum is not, any opaline babies will be females (mum is grey and I think the chicks are opaline). I've had no idea that there are sooo many things to look at when you breed budgies
February 14, 200619 yr yes it is all sex linked traits... Do this, take a pictures of the front and the back, use a flash or in the sunlight because the above pictures are very difficult to see. Then post them in mutations, Rainbow, Nerwen or one of the experts will be able to tell you for sure.
February 14, 200619 yr They all seem to have lots of white around their nostrils which would mean girls but they could still be too young, at a very young age all babies seem to look like girls.
February 14, 200619 yr From the photos Bea would be right. Three girls... The cinnamon gene can not be 100% certain that it is a girl. There could be a split geen that can cause a male.
February 14, 200619 yr Author Thank you all I'll try to take some better pictures tomorrow (it's night here now ) and I'll post them
February 14, 200619 yr From the photos Bea would be right. Three girls... The cinnamon gene can not be 100% certain that it is a girl. There could be a split geen that can cause a male. Mentioning that I do remember Nerwen saying that to budgiebird, thank you for the reminder for sure, these genetics
February 14, 200619 yr From the photos Bea would be right. Three girls... The cinnamon gene can not be 100% certain that it is a girl. There could be a split geen that can cause a male. The father of Kermits babies was a skyblue cinnamon male and we got 3 cinnamon babies out of that. We are assuming they are all females YES ?
February 14, 200619 yr Author I've got veeery old book about breeding budgies, so I thing I'm gonna have a look - I'm interested in the budgie genetics now
February 15, 200619 yr The father of Kermits babies was a skyblue cinnamon male and we got 3 cinnamon babies out of that. We are assuming they are all females YES ? If it is the father that is cinnamon and the mother is not cinnamon, any cinnamon babies from the pair will be females. Male babies would be split for cinnamon from that pairing. The mother cannot be split for cinnamon. Females can't be split for sex linked traits so that would be true of a opaline father and a non-opaline mother as well. Opaline babies from a pair like that would be females. http://www.budgerigars.co.uk/charts/cinnch.html There's a good opaline chart at the bottom of this page. http://lovebirdsalberta.tripod.com/id1.html Edited February 15, 200619 yr by HurdyBirdy
February 15, 200619 yr Yep that's right Hurdy :budgiedance: Now tot he first question here what gender. It does seem a bit early to tell, give a few weeks and you should see a BIG difference. But I would lean towards male for the last two, because of the raised bumps around the nostrils. Males tend to have larger nostril holes and a more dimpled cere, where as a females is slightly flatter. This is 100% to go on there can be difference with that.
February 15, 200619 yr Author Thank you all :budgiedance: !!! I'll take some pics later and send them here. I've looked at the opaline lovebirds and they are talking about "split to opaline" - how does it look like? This is the mum and dad Edited February 15, 200619 yr by Zebra
February 15, 200619 yr Split to opaline will not look any different to a normal (if there isn't any other mutation in play) This is just becuase the breeder knows the history of the bird. Ahh yous should be easy to sex, any with the same wing markings as dad (same body colour on wings) are females. Opaline also makes the head markings lighter so it seems Juli could be opaline and so female.
February 15, 200619 yr I've looked at the opaline lovebirds and they are talking about "split to opaline" - how does it look like? I linked a lovebird chart as a visual aide. The ones that are split to opaline don't look any different that a "normal" bird but they carry the opaline gene. It works the same in budgies.
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