okay well im getting an avairy and i need a design to work on any ideas tips?

 

i liked these 2 designs how big should it be to have 15-20 budgies?and what is the best materials to use? thanks marie xx

 

please post pics and plans of your avairy if possible thanks again!

the first one is better i think

I agree with Pixie, because you walk into a small area first and then the aviary preventing escapes. The other one may be like that too but I can't tell.

yes i like that one to but i think ide want a bit attached with out the roof just netting as well as the covered part for a bit more light i think tht could get a bit dark without a nice bright flying area then you could also see the birds better i thought what do you think?

i think it should be all covered. the weather is so changeable over here. the indoor flight area needs to be larger than that for the winter though, remember if it gets so cold, you may not be able to let them out for a couple of days at a time.

ya i thought ading a nother area to that area so i could let them out in the summer and in the winter they could be kept in the covered area so it would be just like that just another thing attached but there is a door i can close in the winter stop them going in

 

my dad just saw the top picture and he really liked it he thought if we bought a small gardening hut like the one above then and cut open the sides and put netting and add an extra flight place for the summer what do you think?

the covered area is fine for all year round. it is a good size too. i meant you would need a larger completely inddor flight so they would be happy and not crowded if for instance there is a freezing fog or the temp is too low for them to be comfortable.

i think it should be all covered. the weather is so changeable over here. the indoor flight area needs to be larger than that for the winter though, remember if it gets so cold, you may not be able to let them out for a couple of days at a time

sorry pixie your wrong most of the birds in my retirement flight sleep outside in all conditions including freezing weather as long as they have access to an indoor flight and they are quite funny playing in the snow the only reason i would have the roof totaly covered is to protect them from wild bird droppings

its not a matter of right or wrong hath. its personal preference. budgies can die of the cold.

 

all the aviaries i have visited have an indoor and outdoor flight area. and in my opinion the best aviaries have both, to best suit the budgies needs. sure they could survive, but would they really be at their most comforatble considering they come from australia and in the wild live in the desert?

 

if you are going to go through the effort of building an aviary - surely you would want to build the best one you could.

 

there is also the threat from foxes and such at night so it is surely best to have an adequate indoor roosting area.

Gee I'm glad that my parents moved from the UK before i was born so i don't have to worry about housing my birds in the winter and protection from foxes etc etc...

Same here Una! I am so thankful my Dad decided he hated the cold that much he had to move half a world away!

its not a matter of right or wrong hath. its personal preference. budgies can die of the cold.

 

all the aviaries i have visited have an indoor and outdoor flight area. and in my opinion the best aviaries have both, to best suit the budgies needs. sure they could survive, but would they really be at their most comforatble considering they come from australia and in the wild live in the desert?

 

if you are going to go through the effort of building an aviary - surely you would want to build the best one you could.

 

there is also the threat from foxes and such at night so it is surely best to have an adequate indoor roosting area

 

pixie please read what i wrote mine have access to an indoor area all the time but they do not sleep in it sorry 95% dont use it to sleep in no matter what the temp its been down to -9 last week and they still slept outside yet you said you mighten be able to let them out if its to cold ? as for foxs you will get more attention from the normal plague of cats during the day that is why i would recomend that people with a outside flight double wire it this wont stop them scaring them but will stop them geting them with there claws

Edited February 7, 200619 yr by hath

mine are ging to have iundoor and out door fly area so they can choose i will be having double wiring aand double doors ...hath should i lock them in in the night?and what wood should i use for the indoor flying area thanks again xx

 

(Laughing out loud) pixie they are going to have indoor/outdoor flying area roosting place witch will be inselated (ether with a specail material or some kind of heater)and double wiring and fox proof thanks again xx

 

the indoor place will have a parting so i can make syre they cant get out if it is to cold any thing more i should add or should i start looking at the size and design next?

its not a matter of right or wrong hath. its personal preference. budgies can die of the cold.

 

all the aviaries i have visited have an indoor and outdoor flight area. and in my opinion the best aviaries have both, to best suit the budgies needs. sure they could survive, but would they really be at their most comforatble considering they come from australia and in the wild live in the desert?

 

if you are going to go through the effort of building an aviary - surely you would want to build the best one you could.

 

there is also the threat from foxes and such at night so it is surely best to have an adequate indoor roosting area

 

pixie please read what i wrote mine have access to an indoor area all the time but they do not sleep in it sorry 95% dont use it to sleep in no matter what the temp its been down to -9 last week and they still slept outside yet you said you mighten be able to let them out if its to cold ? as for foxs you will get more attention from the normal plague of cats during the day that is why i would recomend that people with a outside flight double wire it this wont stop them scaring them but will stop them geting them with there claws

 

i did read what you wrote, you said your budgies sleep outside at night, i wouldnt do it that way, but hey each to their own. smilyl is asking for design ideas and i am just putting forward ideas and possible problems that will need to be adressed, that is all.

if you are going to lock up your birds on a night ie 15 to 20 as smilyl wants to keep then this will be pretty time consuming and possibly upsetting to the birds im not to sure chasing them around a flight ona evening will be benificial

hmmmm.....maybe better if the indoor flight area will be used to sleep in becouse they will probly go there to get shelter in the night so i can just shut the door so they dont go in the outside one in the night?

yes chasing them around would be very stressful. but do you really need to do that? if you provide a heated indoor area for them to sleep in wouldnt most of them choose to roost in there by themselves? as naturally they thrive in climates much warmer than here i think they would be much more comfortable.

 

sure, your budgies might survive the odd night in freezing temps - but there is still a big risk for them to be left out. -9 is difficult for a human to tolerate, let alone a budgie and as a caring budgie owner i wouldnt be willing to run that risk.

 

im not saying you should round up your birds every night by chasing them. i just think it would be benficial to get your budgies into the habit of roosting in an indoor flight right from the beginning. im sure it can be done, if you do it the right way. and even if you cant get them all into an indoor area, at the very least there should be a covered heated corner of the outdoor area that they can comfortably roost in.

Budgies are pretty intelligent creatures, as long as you provide them with shelter out of drafts & open air they will choose to sleep in the shelter or not. If they get too cold they will go together for mutual warmth.

im all mixed up im not sure what to do everyone has a different view and what ever i do ill have someone saying im cruel and cant take care of my birds please please please i really need some help

(Laughing out loud) smily! your not cruel, you care a great deal about your birds, otherwise you wouldnt be going through the effort of building an aviary for them!

 

have you found any more designs you like yet?

smiley, don't worry there are so many different opinions and you have to pick one you are comfortable with.

 

I think before you decide on which aviary you should decide if it will be indoors or outdoors and then once you do that you can decide on the demension.

 

If it going to be outdoors because there is no room indoors, you have to decide if you would like to heat it or not .

 

Take it 1 step at a time. Work through the simple questions first of where to put it, how you would want your birds to feel in the winter etc...

if you provide a heated indoor area for them to sleep in wouldnt most of them choose to roost in there by themselves?

 

as i said 95% of them chose to sleep outside no matter what the weather

 

your budgies might survive the odd night in freezing temps - but there is still a big risk for them to be left out. -9 is difficult for a human to tolerate

 

well these birds are thriving evan though most are old birds

 

at the very least there should be a covered heated corner of the outdoor area that they can comfortably roost in.

i dont think that would be practicle

 

as naturally they thrive in climates much warmer than here i think they would be much more comfortable.

i doubt these birds in the uk today have very little in the way of wild birds

:sad: thanks every body lovey i have planned measured it out and i was wondering about the design i think ill go with the pics i posted and add in extra flight place so they arent to much in the dark well thanks again marie xx

I'd just like to add about the temperature issue, budgies in the wild deal with both incredibly hot and incredibly cold temperatures for varying lengths of time. Overnight and in winter the Australian bush/outback can get to below freezing temperatures. Budgies are extremely hardy little birds and i'd say the most important thing you should have in your aviary is a good sized area that has 3 covered walls to block snow and wind. For the exposed areas you can get some plastic sheeting to roll down over the wire in snowy and windy conditions and overnight in cold weather.

okay thanks again! xxx i think i know now what kind of desighn is needed