Hi,

 

Meet my budgie, Pixie:

 

I decided Pixie was coming home with me shortly after I fell in love with his/her soft pastel colours and back markings.

 

Pixie and I spent some time together and he/she has become reasonably hand tame, but I think I might have got him/her a little late to become really lovely-dovey and affectionate, and he/she seems to prefer bird company to mine. I was thinking of getting a play mate with whom Pixie could eventually breed... I'd like the babies to come out with the soft yellows and the soft backmarkings that Pixie does.

 

So, I was wondering if any of you budgie-loving experts can help me out, and tell me what colour exactly you would describe my Pixie as, whether it is possible to tell if he's a he or if she's a she yet, and what kind of colour budgie I'm looking for as a playmate. Also, the markings on Pixie's back, are they grey or brown?

 

Here's some more pictures fr anyone who might be able to help us.

 

(head)

http://static.flickr.com/32/92957397_c1d3fcc0b2_o.jpg

(wing)

http://static.flickr.com/27/92957398_e748bac406_o.jpg

(cere)

http://static.flickr.com/34/92957393_abd071180c_o.jpg

 

 

Thankyou for any information anyone can offer

Joanne

Edited January 30, 200619 yr by Nerwen

What a stunning bird I can see why you fell in love with him

 

His is a yellowface type two cinnamon recessive pied.

 

Its the cinnamon gene that is making him pale like and with the brown instead of black wings.

 

I'm saying him but in that last picture he looks more like a she. Is that the lastest picture? Can you tell us what the cere looks like right now. Young Males have a bright pink cere that is normally smooth, recessive pied keep this colour all their lives. A young female is more blue with white ring around the nostrils. It goes a tan and then deep brown as they age.

 

as to Breeding partners any normal blue will give you a chance to get more normal blues, yellow face normals, blue cinnamons, yellow face cinnamons and possible others.

 

Cinnamon is a sex-linked gene and if your Pixie is a girl then it would be best to get another cinnamon to pair her with to get both males and females with that gene. (the males need two to show up)

 

If you want more pied babies you would need to get another recessive pied to pair with.

Thankyou so much for your reply, Nerwen,

 

All of the pictures were taken today with expection of the one that is on the white background (last image) .... Does that mean he/she's more likely a male??

 

If he was a boy, and I found a cinnamon girl for him, then would all of the babies have the brown markings? And if she was a she, and I found a cinnemon boy, would I have around 75% of the babies cinnemon, or am I just confused?

 

What would happen if I found a budgie with the pastel colours, but who had the light grey back markings? Would some/all be grey? some/all be cinnemon?

 

And if I found a pastel coloured bird with the black back markings, would these overcome the cinnemon, and have black markings?

 

Oh and one more question, just to clarify from when you were saying that it is the cinnemon gene that brings the paleness ... Is it the case that all pastel looking budgies will be cinnemon? Or can otherthings bring the paleness too? If so, what other things?

 

Thankyou so much from your reply!

 

Cheers,

Joanne

Nerwen, if she had red eyes, would that make her a fallow? (Just trying to get these straight in my head)

lin- yes perfect

 

Joanne- yes that seem to lead that he is a male.

 

If he was a boy, and I found a cinnamon girl for him, then would all of the babies have the brown markings? And if she was a she, and I found a cinnemon boy, would I have around 75% of the babies cinnemon, or am I just confused?

 

Confused what you wrote was simply swaping the sex of your bird now, but the result with these pairing will still be the same all cinnamon birds.

 

What would happen if I found a budgie with the pastel colours, but who had the light grey back markings? Would some/all be grey? some/all be cinnemon?

 

No The light grey wings is a dilute gene and act differently to cinnamon. This is a recessive gene which means for it to show the babies need two genes one from each parent. Since you don't know the genectic makeup of your bird there is a chance of many split genes (ones that the birds carry but can't be seen on them) to show up that we can't plan for. Sticking to what you can see you would get normals and cinnamon hens(all split for dilute, all males split for cinnamon)

 

 

 

And if I found a pastel coloured bird with the black back markings, would these overcome the cinnemon, and have black markings?

If you did see one like this it would be becuase of the dull babie feathers and will moult out brighter and stronger. But I get what you are asking so: No you will still get some cinnamons, all female.

 

Is it the case that all pastel looking budgies will be cinnemon? Or can otherthings bring the paleness too? If so, what other things?

Greywings (or dilutes) bring out palness in budiges, also opaline gives the bird pale bars on the back of the head and Texus clearboies look paler than other 'normal' birds but there isn't really a colour lost to that gene.

 

Of cause if any of this has gone over your head just let me know and ask again I will try and word it another way.

Edited January 30, 200619 yr by Nerwen

Hang on girls, it's a bit early to call a Fallow. The fallow gene produces the red eye in the adult not the youngster.

 

I would say girl also nerwen as the cere looks to have also the nassal rings and beginings of the rough texture.

 

The discription that Nerwen uses is the phenotype (What the bird looks like) The genotype (what the genes really are) are yet to be known. She could have some hinden gene. This is the surprise in breeding. Can I through in the blue gene as well.

His is a yellowface type two cinnamon recessive pied.

Edited January 30, 200619 yr by daz

There isn't really talk with Fallow Lin was just asking to sort thing out herself.

 

I should add if little Pixie here is in fact a female then when paired to a normal colour male (black wings) none of the babies will show as cinnamon but the males will be split for it.

Hi Nerwen,

 

Thanks for all your help, I think I know what I'm trying to find now.... (It's just a matter of finding one!!)

 

Cheers,

Joanne

Welcome to the forums, beautiful budgie

Good luck in the hunt

I saw a similar budgie at Petsmart once and fell in love too. Sadly, I did not bring her home.

 

Your budgie looks like a male to me! Absolutely adorable!!

What a stunning bird. My vote is for male. Hope you find the budgie you are looking for.

Pixie is absolutely GORGEOUS!!!

He/she looks almost identicle to my Sherbie.

I'm not sure whether Sherbie is a Type 1 or 2 coz

he's greeny blue on his back but baby blue on the front.

I'm also not completely sure that Sherbie is a boy,

the man at the store said he was a male, but he

has developed white rings around his nostrils and

I've heard that means he is a she.

Any tips?

Hi,

Meet my budgie, Pixie:

I decided Pixie was coming home with me shortly after I fell in love with his/her soft pastel colours and back markings.

Pixie and I spent some time together and he/she has become reasonably hand tame, but I think I might have got him/her a little late to become really lovely-dovey and affectionate, and he/she seems to prefer bird company to mine. I was thinking of getting a play mate with whom Pixie could eventually breed... I'd like the babies to come out with the soft yellows and the soft backmarkings that Pixie does.

So, I was wondering if any of you budgie-loving experts can help me out, and tell me what colour exactly you would describe my Pixie as, whether it is possible to tell if he's a he or if she's a she yet, and what kind of colour budgie I'm looking for as a playmate. Also, the markings on Pixie's back, are they grey or brown?

Thankyou for any information anyone can offer

Joanne

She is a beautiful yellow faced cinnamon winged budgerigar...very nice and will change slightly after 8 months....

Regards Doc

He/she looks almost identicle to my Sherbie.

I'm not sure whether Sherbie is a Type 1 or 2 coz

he's greeny blue on his back but baby blue on the front.

I would say type 2 My Ringo was like that with a green mark on her back but the patches on her chest where greyish. As she aged those marks turned green becuase of the bleed though of yellow.

 

 

Your good with the genders Docca Looking again I'm with you for girl.

My vote is for a hen as well. The cere is much to rough looking in some of those pictures to be male. And the last two especially look female to me. :budgiedance: She is a pretty budgie.