Posted January 10, 200619 yr Hi, This is my first post on this sight and it's just a question. Is this a good cage for one or two budgies? or would i need a larger one if i got two. i'm planning to get my first budgie at the end of the month and i was thinking (after looking around on this sight and researching) that this would be a good cage. edit: i forgot to post the link. here it islThis cage Cheers, Daniel Edited January 10, 200619 yr by Thunil
January 10, 200619 yr Hi Daniel, welcome ....that cage looks perfect for a budgie!!! That ebay seller sells lots of cool pet stuff especially for birds.....I'm waiting on a birdy bed from that seller!!
January 11, 200619 yr Hi Daniel, welcome to the forums! That cage is perfect for probably even 3 or 4 budgies. I've been wanting one like it for quite some time.
January 11, 200619 yr I have four of those cages. One for the four budgies, one for the two cockatiels and two to tempt me to get more birds. (Actually, they only sold them in lots of 4 and it was a good deal.) I've found that they work out really nicely but you have to be careful to arrange them to make the best use of the space. Generally, just try and keep the middle clear of clutter so that they can easily fly from one end to the other. If your budgies get lots of time out of the cage every day, four are comfortable. If they have to spend a lot of time caged, I'd keep only two in one of those cages. Here are some pictures as an example of how I set up my cages when I first got them. They're quite different now (the middle of the budgie cage is less crowded and I don't use any of the long perches that came with the cages anymore.) This is a view from the side. From the front. I think you'll enjoy the cages, I just have a couple of tips that might help. First of all, all the doors are guillotine-style and could catch your budgie's neck (or he could escape) if he messes with them. This happened to me with a different cage and ever since then, I clip the doors shut on all my cages. Just because your budgie has never shown interest in this doesn't mean he/she won't try it. Pixel had never messed with the cage doors until that horrible night and she almost died. Another thing, when you put the cage together make sure that everything fits securely. If you don't have it set up right, there will be gaps in the bars which your bird's head could get trapped in. This isn't an issue as long as you put it together properly. Just keep it in mind for when you have to move the cage or take it apart for cleaning. Make sure you always secure it properly when you're finished! The gaps happen in the corners so just give them a look-over when you've got the cage together to make sure everything looks right. Other than those things, I think you'll find that these are great cages. The tray is very easy to slide in and out and wipes clean SO easily! I love them. :fear
January 11, 200619 yr thanks for the quick replies. I can't wait untill i get mine i'll see if i can talk my dad into ordering it tonight. I'll make sure i'll peg the doors down. etteri, where did you get yours from? is it the same place as i am ordering mine from? unfortunately i will be going back to school early febuary and both my parents work and my older brother will be doing year twelve so they might have to spend a bit of time without me so i'll stick to two. Cheers, Daniel
January 11, 200619 yr I got the cages from Demsond Pet Depot. They sell a lot on Ebay but it's a company in the U.S. apparently.
January 11, 200619 yr my dad won't let me buy the new cage so he says i have to use the the one we havewhich is 17"long x 14" wide x 17" high. is this size okay for one budgie? the cage we have is a few years old and has a bit of rust is this dangerous for the budgie? if it is he might let me buy a new cage
January 11, 200619 yr The minimum size cage for a single budgie is 18"x18"x18" but the bigger the better. At yes, rust is deadly to birds so you'll need a new cage anyway for safety.
January 11, 200619 yr its a good cage only the perch should go across not length ways but you can easily get some new perches
January 14, 200619 yr good news i probably will be able to get my aunties cage that she used to have a cockatiel in. i haven't measured it yet but it is pretty big :fear Edited January 14, 200619 yr by Thunil
January 14, 200619 yr That's nice that your aunt is giving you her cage.. but make sure that the bars aren't too far apart. Some cockatiel cages aren't good for budgies.. You wouldn't want anything that a budgie head can fit through. Less than 1/2 an inch is recommended spacing here. Also make sure you throughly disinfect it before use.
January 14, 200619 yr Very good advice, 1/2 inch or less bar spacing. That is very important. :fear Also, make sure the paint isn't chipped and there is no rust. Hope the cage works out for you! It's always nice to give our fids more space!
January 15, 200619 yr if the bars are too wide apart for a budgie i might just have to get a cockatiel
January 15, 200619 yr Cockatiels often cost more than budgies and they're very different in personality. Also, if you can't afford to get a new cage if it's necessary, you shouldn't get any bird. They aren't cheap to take care of!
January 15, 200619 yr Thunil, exactly what type of personality are where you looking for? Terri is right cockatiels are VERY different then budgies, both needs the correct cage specs, food etc... You shouldn't get a cockatiel just because the cage is meant for it. Not trying to be mean or evil, just want to let you know that your decision affects a precious little being.
January 15, 200619 yr i've done research on both types of bird (but i wouldn't consider myself nearly as knowledgable as most of you) and i am still researching both breeds. money isn't the issue (after my birthday, christmas and new year (its a greek tradition to go and collect money from relatives on new years day) i have quite a tidy sum of cash on hand) with buying a cage and such it's that my dad doesn't want me to buy a cage and spend my own money (he's weird like that). i understand that you guys are just trying to make sure captive birds lead a happy life and i didn't see any comments as being mean. Lovey, i think i would like the slightly cheeky ans wild streek that some budgies seem to have but i would also like the traits of tiels like how they are meant to be more personable, and i won't mind the noise. i'll be measuring the cage some time soon and i will post all the dimensions and bar spacing and i'll make sure to ask lots of questions on here before i do anything else. cheers, Daniel
January 15, 200619 yr It sounds to me like you're making a well thought out decision. You've certainly come to the right place to do your research
January 15, 200619 yr It's not just the initial purchase you need to think about (bird and cage and food and toys and perches etc.) but the vet care bills and long term financial responsibilities. Who will cover for those? Christmas only comes once a year. If your dad doesn't want you spending your own money on a cage (and obviously won't spend his on it) what is he going to say when your budgie or 'tiel is sick or injured and needs the VERY expensive avian veterinarian? What's he going to say when he finds out he has to drive an hour or two just to get the bird there? It seems that unless the parent wants the bird as much as his/her child, these things become very difficult. Especially the vet, which can run close to $200 for a checkup alone! (It varies depending on the vet, but that isn't an uncommon sum to pay.) I'm not trying to be overly negative about the situation, I just see a lot of people who bring home birds but don't really have the means to take care of them. Then, when the bird desperately needs the vet, it doesn't get there because "Mom (or Dad) doesn't want to pay/drive/bother with a cheap little bird." A lot of the argument that kids use to get their parents to let them have a budgie (it's cheap, it's not noisy, it's not messy) works against them in the end. Because they're not cheap, they're very noisy and they are often very messy. And cockatiels? Twice as noisy, twice as messy, twice as loud. Hens are prone to chronic egg laying which makes for some very expensive vet bills as you often need to get them to the vet often or you end up with an egg bound 'tiel. Males are super loud and get passed from home to home to home. They are also very prone to having night frights which means they are prone to breaking bloodfeathers which means they are prone to making your wallet very empty and your head very grey. Another thing that I wish young people would thnk about before getting a bird is college. I don't know how old you are or if this even applies but if you're planning on going to college when you get out of high school who is going to take care of your pet? Are you positive you'll be going somewhere close to home? I just want to give you lots and lots to think about. Since this is obviously going to effect your entire family please share ALL your research with them. Don't glamourize budgie ownership or make it sound simple and easy just so they will allow you to have another one. In showing them true, proper research maybe they'll get bitten by the budgie bug too and strive to help you take care of one properly? Have them read through http://budgietalk.com especially the page called "Consider This." It can easily apply to cockatiels too, just remember that cockatiels are going to be twice as loud, twice as messy, and twice more expensive with vet bills (potentially).
January 16, 200619 yr Thanks etteri, my dad also wants the bird. i have talked to him and he is more than happy to pay for vet bills, food. my dad also loves animals so if there was something wrong with the bird he would drive me to a vet even if it is far away. with the college thing i am 15 and in australia most kids stay at home while they go to college and i know i am. i know that you are just trying to make sure that the bird i get will get all the care it needs (and a lot more love) and i thank you for giving me good figures to tell my dad so he can also know how much things cost. edit: thanks for the site etteri it's great and i am reading almost all of it as i type this Edited January 16, 200619 yr by Thunil
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