My mother had her first chick a short time ago, and I just purchased two budgies. It is likely that my birds are siblings, so I will not allow them to mate. But I think my mother's baby, a hen?, would be an okay mate for my Sylvester in about a year. I think with the help of everyone here, we've established that Sylvester is a dilute yellow face type II. I think that my mom's baby is a recessive pied and possibly a yellow face? Can anyone help me identify her, confirm that it is a hen, and give me an idea of what babies I might get?

 

Thanks everyone! I can't believe how interested in budgies I have become in such a short time.

 

 

 

And for those of you who don't remember- this is Sylvester

 

oh goodness, I had to post how sweet he looks in that picture.

I would say yes it would be okay to pair them up when he is ready, as for the coloring I will let the others step in

Cute birds.. bit of a tough one. Many budgies have some hidden genes that you can't see.. so the only way to know for sure is to know what's in their family tree.

I think that the recessive pied is a female. Dilute and recessive pied are both recessive.. so for either to show up in the offspring the other parent would need to be split for it - meaning that the pied would have to be split for dilute or the dilute would need to be split for recessive pied for either to show in the babies. Also, the recessive pied would need to be split for blue for any blue babies. With all that in mind.. based on what I can see in the pair it would be 100% normal green (split for blue, recessive pied and dilute).

Edited January 10, 200619 yr by HurdyBirdy

Cute birds.. bit of a tough one. Many budgies have some hidden genes that you can't see.. so the only way to know for sure is to know what's in their family tree.

I think that the recessive pied is a female. Dilute and recessive pied are both recessive.. so for either to show up in the offspring the other parent would need to be split for it - meaning that the pied would have to be split for dilute or the dilute would need to be split for recessive pied for either to show in the babies. Also, the recessive pied would need to be split for blue for any blue babies. With all that in mind.. based on what I can see in the pair it would be 100% normal green (split for blue, recessive pied and dilute).

 

 

Well I know what the mom and dad of the recessive pied look like. See below

 

Mom

 

Dad

 

I have no idea what Sylvester's (dilute) parents look like.

Since the mom is blue.. that means the recessive pied is split for blue. So with Sylvester she could have a possible 50% blue babies. I'm not exactly sure how the yellowface gene works.. but I think you could get yellowface blues as well.

yellow face is dominant to the blue gene. AL all blues will have yellowfaces. That is if Sylvester is what we think he is.

yellow face is dominant to the blue gene. AL all blues will have yellowfaces.

 

It is the same for both yellowface types I and II?

Yep.

yellow face is dominant to the blue gene. AL all blues will have yellowfaces. That is if Sylvester is what we think he is.

 

 

Oh, so exciting. When I heard that the babies would probably be normal green I was a little disappointed. Not that they aren't gorgeous. But I love blue. And yellowface blue - even better. Thanks for your input everyone!

wow your mothers baby is nearly i dentical to kiwi my 7/6week old babe

I really don't know, but I would have thought that both the baby recessive pied and Sylvester were females from those photos :fear

I really don't know, but I would have thought that both the baby recessive pied and Sylvester were females from those photos

 

I'm learning that it is a little harder with the recessives to tell sex from the cere. Actually, I'm pretty sure now that my mom's baby (Emmy) is a male. I saw him the other day and his cere looks just like Sylvester's. Emmy's dad also has pinkish cere, so he will likely have one too. It is very flat and different from the female's cere.

 

So if I were to breed with Emmy, I will have to use my female Tweety. They are both babies so it isn't something that will be happening any time soon.

 

Sylvester and Tweety

 

Any ideas on what the babies would be if I breed Tweety with Emmy?

I really don't know, but I would have thought that both the baby recessive pied and Sylvester were females from those photos

 

 

If you look at her signature yoiu can see a closer up, Sylvester definitely looks boy . But if you are talking about the first photo, the recessive pied you are right it looks like a hen.

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Your right those recessive are tricky.

Edited January 15, 200619 yr by lovey

In the picture. Emmy definately looks like a hen. But I know pictures can sometimes be deceiving.

Any ideas on what the babies would be if I breed Tweety with Emmy?

 

Nothing would change except the absence of yellowface.. so a possible 50% normal blue, 50% normal green (all split for dilute and recessive pied)