I hope that someone can help me learn more about my new budgies - Sylvester (Yellow Green) and Tweety (Blue). The store told me they were harlequins and I paid more for them. They are supposed to be babies. I don't know if they are siblings.

 

 

Any information would be appreciated. Thank you :ausb:

I have no idea what they are... I just wanted to say that your birds are GORGEOUS!!! Especially Sylvester.

 

There are lots of people on this forum that will be able to tell you what kind of birds you have, I am not good at that as I am just learning the different mutations myself. Welcome to the site.

 

 

P.S If I had those two birds and they were harlequins, I would name one Harley and the other one Quinn ( get it... Harley Quinn...harlequin) ..(Laughing out loud) ( I know, thats corny!! (Laughing out loud))

Edited January 7, 200619 yr by kaykay

Great idea about the names. Wish I'd thought of it. I got help from my 5 year old niece with the names. She wanted Tweety (not my favourite but didn't want to disappoint her) so I thought I would go with Looney Toon characters (which is where Sylvester came from). Maybe my next will be Tazzy or Bugs. Who knows?

Can you take a picture of the back of them too, so they can see their wings. I am still learning my mutation so I can't be exact on what they are :ausb: Yes they are young, you can see the bars coming down to their ceres, as they molt the bars will molt out. Their first molt will be around 4-6 months . You can go under the Budgie pictures and check out the pictures that members post of their baby chicks, great way to learn :wine.

Edited January 7, 200619 yr by lovey

They're really cute. I'm pretty sure they're not Harlequins -- Harlequin is another name for recessive pied.. and they have "spots" on their wings -- But they are very attractive colors. The blue one looks like a sky blue dilute. I'm not sure about the greenish one .. but maybe yellowface type 2 dilute pied.

go back to the shop and demand your money back. I have always wondered if folks where caught out on that or not. I have a shop near me that chages more for Harlequin and i look in the cage and there are only two in there out of about 20.

 

 

HurdyBirdy is right they look like two dilutes, or clearwings. (same muations different level of colour or lack of)

 

It also looks like you have a boy (Sylvester) and a girl there (tweety) so you names then correctly Sylvester will be chasing after her later

 

I wondered about yellowface type 2 for sylvester, but he is ver young to have so much green on him already for that gene, so i would think a normal green.

 

I can't see any pied signs on them at all, but a shot of the back would help with that. But even if they have a patch of clear feathers on their head, called a pied patch then they are a dominant pied and not Harlequin (recessive pied-as Hurdy said)

Nerwen, I was thinking that about, saying it was a Harequin, but I decided to be quiet until you came along. They didn't look like pieds to me either , so I did think about that.

Can you take a picture of the back of them too, so they can see their wings. I am still learning my mutation so I can't be exact on what they are Yes they are young, you can see the bars coming down to their ceres, as they molt the bars will molt out. Their first molt will be around 4-6 months . You can go under the Budgie pictures and check out the pictures that members post of their baby chicks, great way to learn .

 

Here are a couple more shots of the birds (from side and back).

 

 

Hope this helps with the identification. Thanks

I hope Adam doesn't mind, this is eterri's site and she does a wonderful job doing a general description of Pieds (harlequins), because there are different colors. Pretty in my signature is a recessive pied. Great pictures of the backs When you go to her site, click on mutations. http://budgietalk.com/

 

I will take a stab at it add say

Tweety is a diluated clearwing (blue)

Sylvester looks diluated too but Nerwen is better on this then I, and is a clearwing too

 

These are just guesses

Edited January 7, 200619 yr by lovey

I hope Adam doesn't mind, this is eterri's site and she does a wonderful job doing a general description of Pieds (harlequins), because there are different colors. Pretty in my signature is a recessive pied. Great pictures of the backs When you go to her site, click on mutations. http://budgietalk.com/

 

I will take a stab at it add say

Tweety is a diluated clearwing (blue)

Sylvester looks diluated too but Nerwen is better on this then I, and is a clearwing too

 

These are just guesses

 

 

Thanks for the link. I will definately check it out. I also stumbled upon this link

http://www.geocities.com/budgie-place/p_colors.html

 

and if I am interpreting the info correctly and the info is in fact correct, I think my birds are both dilutes. Not sure if there is anything more specific than that (ie. clearwing, greywing?).

 

This is probably something for a new thread but I'm wondering if they weren't siblings and I were to breed them, would all the babies be dilutes?

okay.. I was wrong about the pied.. I thought I saw patches of color on the green ones tummy in the first picture.

 

Here's what a Harlequin/recessive pied looks like.

 

 

They're very sweet looking.. and I guess that the store could have classed them as "rare" mutations.. but were misrepresented in calling them Harlequins.

Tweety is an opaline too. They're very beautiful!

This is probably something for a new thread but I'm wondering if they weren't siblings and I were to breed them, would all the babies be dilutes?

 

Yes. The babies would all be dilutes.. but without knowing if they were siblings you definately wouldn't want to. There is a strong possiblity that these birds are related. Could be clutchmates, even though one is blue and the other is green.

Beautiful babies!!

 

I don't think the green one is green. I think it is a type 2 yellowface blue. There looks to be blue near the legs in the first picture, and blue on the chest too. What color are the feathers underneath the wing, at the bend? The two type 2 yellowface blue chicks I got were that "greeny" color right away when they first feathered out, they didn't have to molt into it (see picture below - babies were about 6 weeks old). It just got more prominent after the first few molts. I think yours are both dilutes, and the visual blue one is a hen.

 

Great back shots

I'm with the others in thinking they are both dilutes. And as bea said tweety is an opaline as well.

 

On their here heads there isn't even a pied dot so they are not pieds. You could argue that the could carry a recessive gene but then the store would need to have proof of what clutch they came from and all that. If you want to take the bother and get back the extra you paid I think you have every right to.

Tweety is an opaline too. They're very beautiful!

 

 

Thanks. When I look at the markings of the two birds, they look the same - my untrained eye. I'm not sure I understand opalines very well. What makes Tweety an opaline??

 

Beautiful babies!!

 

I don't think the green one is green. I think it is a type 2 yellowface blue. There looks to be blue near the legs in the first picture, and blue on the chest too. What color are the feathers underneath the wing, at the bend? The two type 2 yellowface blue chicks I got were that "greeny" color right away when they first feathered out, they didn't have to molt into it (see picture below - babies were about 6 weeks old). It just got more prominent after the first few molts. I think yours are both dilutes, and the visual blue one is a hen.

 

 

 

I have been looking closely at Sylvester. I do see a few spots of Turquoise on him. So when he molts will his all of his feathers be more turquoise in colour? Wow! He is already beautiful, but he will be a gorgeous bird if that is the case.

Edited January 9, 200619 yr by Shawna

They are beautiful..... very pretty.

So when he molts will his all of his feathers be more turquoise in colour?

 

He will become slightly birgher with his moult and yes he will be a turquoise colour all over.

 

What makes Tweety an opaline??

Have a look on her back and in the spot between her wings, the 'v' shape area, the feathers are blue like the body. On a normal bird this area would be white. The opaline gene changes the colouring of that area and the wings to the body color of the bird.

What makes Tweety an opaline??

Have a look on her back and in the spot between her wings, the 'v' shape area, the feathers are blue like the body. On a normal bird this area would be white. The opaline gene changes the colouring of that area and the wings to the body color of the bird.

 

Actually, the color of that "V" area would still be blue if she were a "normal", but she would have the barring covering the area instead. Only the shell feathers on the wing (not the flights) get changed to blue.