There are differant shades of blues and greens in a budgie and these come down to Dark factor's. This genes do not add more colour to the feathers , but chance the strutture of the feathers. In the green line you have the normal green, dark green then olive. Olive is a bird with two dark factor genes, while the dark green only has one.

In the blue line there is sky blue, cobalt and Mauve.

 

 

 

sky blue

 

Cobalt

 

Normal Green

 

Olive

 

 

sorry for the shortness of this, ask any question and hopefully i can get soem help from others like Daz, Rainbow, Bea and any others. Bea can you post a picture of Jelly please

Edited December 14, 200519 yr by Nerwen

I love that first picture. My question is how does it change the structure of the feathers? You are saying it doesn't make them darker in color?

Where does the grey colour come from? I think I read that it is a modified version of the blue gene, is this correct?

 

What about voilet, can someone explain where that comes from? I think I read that it's a result of the effect of multiple genes, but I've got no idea which, is it the dark factor (eg double factor dark and mauve at a guess)?

 

Oh, oh, and what about lutino and ablino? The absence of blue and absence of both? Er... that doesn't make sense. okay, someone tell me

 

By the way, I love the first picture, very cute

Edited December 14, 200519 yr by Ausmoz

Thanks for using the picture of Arctic - it brings up an interesting point. I believe he is a violet skyblue instead of cobalt. But those two colors look almost exactly alike so this will probably cause more confusion.

love the first picture

Thanks for using the picture of Arctic - it brings up an interesting point. I believe he is a violet skyblue instead of cobalt.

I was wondering about a violet gene with him looking at the cheek patches, but it was the best I could find late last night and doing a search for a dark green I found one of my own Freckle

 

As to lovey question, it's kinda a trick of light. It changes the way the light bends in the feathers giving a darker appearance.

 

I'll get to grey in a minute trying to work out a way to explaini t

lutino and albino- first you need to know that the 'green' budgie is not made up of green feather but a mix of yellow and blue, the ino gene blocks all the other colour pigments in a bird leaving a yellow colour bird. No one gene can make albino. So you need the blue gene to remove the yellow pigments and the ino gene to remove all the others to be left with a white bird.

 

Remember in Budgies there are bird that LOOK like a lutino or albino but in fact are not becuase the llack of red eyes. These can either bee DEC (dark eyed clears) which is from pairing two different pied genes or a Double factor spangle.

So, you're saying that a lutino has an extra "ino" gene rather than an absent blue gene. Or is it just a different form of the green gene? I'm not sure I get it...

 

What do you get if you breed an albino with a lutino? Lutinos?

lutino removes the grey(blue), black and browns from the bird leaving the yellow in place. Ino is the term used for the gene when not meaning either lutino or albino. The blue gene removes the yellow from the feather. Matching the two genes creates an albino.

Here's a photo of Jelly (mauve)

lutino removes the grey(blue), black and browns from the bird leaving the yellow in place. Ino is the term used for the gene when not meaning either lutino or albino. The blue gene removes the yellow from the feather. Matching the two genes creates an albino.

 

okay... let me see if I understand now...

So, green + ino = lutino?

and blue + ino = albino?

 

So, to make sure: Albino and lutino are not the absence of other colour genes (like green and blue), but the expression of these colours is blocked by the "ino" gene. So a lutino could be a normal green, or a dark green "underneath", but these colours just don't show up because of the "ino"? I hope that's right, if not, I'm confused

 

And another thing, I thought the blue gene was a different (recessive) form of the green gene, but still the same gene (ie I thougth that blue and green were alleles of the green gene). Is this correct or not?

 

Sorry if I'm bugging you (or anyone else) :rip:. I just really want to understand the colours. I really appreciate the help

Edited December 16, 200519 yr by Ausmoz

Oh I just have to say how sweet Jelly is . OFF TOPIC, I know

Well to use the word Daz like to say, there is in fact no "GREEN" in a budgie. The green colour we see and call normal is a joining of yellow and blue. And no don't believe they are alleles if the same gene. Blue and Yellowface blue are which might be where the confusion is coming from.

 

So, green + ino = lutino?

and blue + ino = albino?

Yes. Lutino is a sex-linked gene so it depends on what the parents have.

eg. Lutino Make X Normal hen

Normal/lutino males

Lutino Hens.

Well to use the word Daz like to say, there is in fact no "GREEN" in a budgie. The green colour we see and call normal is a joining of yellow and blue. And no don't believe they are alleles if the same gene. Blue and Yellowface blue are which might be where the confusion is coming from.

 

I meant that green and blue are alleles. Not green and "ino", or blue and "ino".

Edited December 17, 200519 yr by Ausmoz