I'm wondering what my bird Kitty's mutation is. I thought she was a graywing but now I'm not sure if she's a dilute or clearwing or what, help!

 

 

 

Thanks!

She is very pretty, I still am learning about mutations but just wanted to say what a pretty little girl you have.

I'm not terribly experienced, but I'd say dilute.

Could you post a picture of her back also?

Could you post a picture of her back also?

 

Yeah,here it is, I hope that helps!

 

 

Thanks!

 

She is very pretty, I still am learning about mutations but just wanted to say what a pretty little girl you have.

 

Thanks! I think so too

She looks like a poor clearwing to me. Don't take it the wrong way she is still cute.

She looks like a poor clearwing to me. Don't take it the wrong way she is still cute.

 

haha, no i'm not offended. I'm not going to start disliking my budgie because she's not a perfect pedigree. However... how do you define "poor?" Is is just that she's not a well defined clearwing? How do you know she's not greywing or dilute?

She looks like a poor clearwing to me. Don't take it the wrong way she is still cute.

 

haha, no i'm not offended. I'm not going to start disliking my budgie because she's not a perfect pedigree. However... how do you define "poor?" Is is just that she's not a well defined clearwing? How do you know she's not greywing or dilute?

 

Her wings should be lighter and less marked to be perfect.

 

Why I'm not saying greywing is because greywings are muted ( diluted) Clearwings don't have muted colours. Greywings and dilutes do... :budgiedance:

 

Hope this helps..

Her wings should be lighter and less marked to be perfect.

 

Why I'm not saying greywing is because greywings are muted ( diluted) Clearwings don't have muted colours. Greywings and dilutes do...

 

Hope this helps..

 

I'm sorry i don't know any of this but does diluted or muted mean? Does it mean that her body colors are lighter than a normal green? What is a muted color on a budgie? Thanks

Edited November 15, 200519 yr by Rainbow

okay clearwings have full body colour, Greywings and dilutes don't have full body colour.

 

Your bird looks like she has full body colour.

actually Lady clearings is step two in the dulite gene.

 

I'm with you the colouring of the wings are too light for a grey wing but the body colour is still strong so it rules out dulite.

 

Lei she is a cutie

Lady, I thought true greywings were supposed to be very close to full body color with only the wings being 50% intensity of normal?

 

Lei, I agree with everyone else that your bird has the dilute gene, and is very pretty. I love the color. Dilution just means that the intensity of the color is muted (or diluted) to a lower percentage of what normal is. They can range from just a little lighter color to a very very light color. The wings will not have dark black markings like a normal and the body color is less intense too. For example, in this picture the first three birds on the top, beginning right, are a normal violet skyblue, a dilute skyblue, and a greywing skyblue. Notice even the muted color of the tail on the dilute. There is a pretty wide range of what is considered dilute. I think (please someone correct me if I am wrong) that ideally a dilute's coloring should be about 25% of normal.

Edited November 15, 200519 yr by Rainbow

Lady, I thought true greywings were supposed to be very close to full body color with only the wings being 50% intensity of normal?

 

Lei, I agree with everyone else that your bird has the dilute gene, and is very pretty. I love the color. Dilution just means that the intensity of the color is muted (or diluted) to a lower percentage of what normal is. They can range from just a little lighter color to a very very light color. The wings will not have dark black markings like a normal and the body color is less intense too. For example, in this picture the first three birds on the top, beginning right, are a normal violet skyblue, a dilute skyblue, and a greywing skyblue. Notice even the muted color of the tail on the dilute. There is a pretty wide range of what is considered dilute. I think (please someone correct me if I am wrong) that ideally a dilute's coloring should be about 25% of normal.

 

thanks! but I thought everyone else was saying that she's a clearwing and not a dilute because her body color didn't look diluted to them....::confused::

both myself and raibow are saying that clearwing is part of the dilute gene. There are three levels

 

first is grey wing where only the flight feathers are grey toned rather than black, the second is clear wing (your little one) where all the baring on the bird wings and back are grey. the aim for a clear wing is almost no wing marking but a strong body colour. The third level is dilute, this is where the whole bird's colouring is less in strengh than a normal bird.

 

hope this is still understandable sometimes I tend to rambling into genetic that newcommers to the idea don't understand

both myself and raibow are saying that clearwing is part of the dilute gene. There are three levels

 

first is grey wing where only the flight feathers are grey toned rather than black, the second is clear wing (your little one) where all the baring on the bird wings and back are grey. the aim for a clear wing is almost no wing marking but a strong body colour. The third level is dilute, this is where the whole bird's colouring is less in strengh than a normal bird.

 

hope this is still understandable sometimes I tend to rambling into genetic that newcommers to the idea don't understand

 

okay that's helpful, thanks!

There is 3 stages of Dilute.

 

Clearwing

Greywing

Dilute.

 

You can see these in another post on the site.

Lady, I thought true greywings were supposed to be very close to full body color with only the wings being 50% intensity of normal?

 

Lei, I agree with everyone else that your bird has the dilute gene, and is very pretty. I love the color. Dilution just means that the intensity of the color is muted (or diluted) to a lower percentage of what normal is. They can range from just a little lighter color to a very very light color. The wings will not have dark black markings like a normal and the body color is less intense too. For example, in this picture the first three birds on the top, beginning right, are a normal violet skyblue, a dilute skyblue, and a greywing skyblue. Notice even the muted color of the tail on the dilute. There is a pretty wide range of what is considered dilute. I think (please someone correct me if I am wrong) that ideally a dilute's coloring should be about 25% of normal.

 

thanks! but I thought everyone else was saying that she's a clearwing and not a dilute because her body color didn't look diluted to them....::confused::

 

I think her body color does look diluted. She is not nearly as dark as a normal green. And a "poor clearwing" just means her flight feathers still have a greyish tint to them instead of being completely white.

I think her body color does look diluted. She is not nearly as dark as a normal green. And a "poor clearwing" just means her flight feathers still have a greyish tint to them instead of being completely white.

 

I agree, I've always thought her body color looked paler than a normal green but I don't know much about budgie genetics so... Anyway, I have an album I keep of my budgie pictures so if you guys want to look at more pictures of her, feel free..

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/61165931@N00/

Edited November 29, 200519 yr by Rainbow

Such pretty pictures!!! I like the skyblue hen too, what a cutie!