Posted October 31, 200519 yr Lin has a test to do from hath! She has to try and point out Budgy2s good points and bad points as far as showing is concerned! This is the best I can do so far Lin! It's so difficult when you're trying to get a certain angle,haven't got a decent one of the front yet though. You'll have to excuse his tatty feathers though because as you know he is having problems at the moment. If it's no good let me know. Is this the very first test we've had on here then! No pressure! Good Luck-your time starts.........................NOW! Edited October 31, 200519 yr by Julie
October 31, 200519 yr Oh dear! Thanks Jules. But seeing as it's 1am here, I might just do my test tomorrow, or later today rather
November 1, 200519 yr wow good luck Lin I would fail big time, but then I've never had an interest in showing budgies.
November 1, 200519 yr I have no clue but what I have seen with the pictures here... Their head structure and feathers (they are so poofy and very eagle like..best way I can explain it) I am sure the marking on his around his neck are a big factor not too big and not too small, and nicely shaped looks like oval? Coloring of the cere and beak I am sure a factor. Male being a nice deep blue, unless it is the picture the cere seems smaller on the show birds vs non show? Am I on the right track?
November 1, 200519 yr ill give lin a few more days to have a go then i have six pictures for people to place the birds in order these are birds from a open show
November 2, 200519 yr Okay, here goes Condition: Feathers aren't sitting neatly Length: Hmm, not sure on this, but in the first picture it might be that his head is a bit small? Type: His beak isn't tucked into his feathers, front line is tapering out from beak, but don't know if sufficient, stance looks good, Head: doesn't appear to be what I would think of as 'bold, wide and rounded' in the first picture, but appears more so in the second picture. (This is soo hard, because He's just gorgeous, I feel like I'm picking him to shreds). He's got the feather thing from his cere, although it doesn't extend down at the back as far at it should Wings: Don't appear to conform. Neck: unsure Shoulders: appears wide, but wide enough? Eyes: Yes, 2. Appears to conform Mask: Completely don't understand this Spots: Has 6 major ones (how on earth do people 'remove' them?) Cheek Patches: conforms' Markings: No idea Beak: Not tucked in Cere: Conforms Colour: Appears even to me Legs and Feet: Conforms Lenght of Body: No idea Tail: Apart from being ratty in that picture, appears to conform Okay, I'm sure I've failed, and I apologise to Julie for ripping her poor bird to shreds! Especially where I've ripped him to shreds and was WRONG! Now let's here from Hath, time for ME to be ripped to shreds!
November 2, 200519 yr Well i, knowing nothing about show budgies, think that sounds very smart and technical!! :(Laughing out loud):
November 2, 200519 yr Oh Julie, you have no idea how awful I felt. I had to keep going back to his cute little pictures, it was like he knew what I was doing.
November 2, 200519 yr I haven't a clue but in Australia here are the categories. Condition Head Neck Body Tail Legs/feet Wings Eyes Break Cere Size Colour Mask/Spots Markings I think he has all of them but don't know if they are any good? Edited November 2, 200519 yr by daz
November 2, 200519 yr Let's see someone else have a go! Why should I be the only one publicly humiliated? Hath's criteriea are here at post 37
November 2, 200519 yr ill leave it a couple of days to see if anyone else wants a go then ill put my two cents in
November 3, 200519 yr ill leave it a couple of days to see if anyone else wants a go then ill put my two cents in
November 5, 200519 yr Okay, here goes Condition: Feathers aren't sitting neatly it takes about 6 to 8 weeks to get a bird into condition so wouldnt expect these to be Length: Hmm, not sure on this, but in the first picture it might be that his head is a bit small? cant tell as there is nothing to compare but should be around eight and a half inches Type: His beak isn't tucked into his feathers, front line is tapering out from beak, but don't know if sufficient, stance looks good, not perching at the rite degree to straight in body front and back doesnt have the swagger look Head: doesn't appear to be what I would think of as 'bold, wide and rounded' in the first picture, but appears more so in the second picture. (This is soo hard, because He's just gorgeous, I feel like I'm picking him to shreds). He's got the feather thing from his cere, although it doesn't extend down at the back as far at it should doesnt have the upward outwards sweep and a little narrow across the eyes giving a pinched look cuts down a little quick behind the head as well Wings: Don't appear to conform. its a little hard to see if they meet as stated Neck: unsure fine Shoulders: appears wide, but wide enough? lack of width and substance Eyes: Yes, 2. Appears to conform Lack of backskull Mask: Completely don't understand this short and unevan Spots: Has 6 major ones (how on earth do people 'remove' them?) not spaced evenly little small Cheek Patches: conforms' little out of shape Markings: No idea from what i can see fine Beak: Not tucked in beak looks fine but doesnt have the feather growth around it Cere: Conforms lacking condition but to be expected as this bird has not been brought into condition Colour: Appears even to me looks even hard to tell Legs and Feet: Conforms fine Lenght of Body: No idea hard to tell Tail: Apart from being ratty in that picture, appears to conform appears fine if not a touch short my answers in bold julie please dont be offended you have to be criticle and follow the standards but people must remember that this bird has not gone the 6 to 8 weeks of conditioning that is needed to bring a show bird up to standard and has also not been trained in a show cage Edited November 5, 200519 yr by hath
November 6, 200519 yr I think I did all right for my first go! Hath, do you think I did all right? (Jules, please give him a cuddle and kiss from me, and tell him I didn't mean any of it)
November 6, 200519 yr You want me to give hath a kiss and a cuddle lin? Seriously,far from being offended I'm finding it absolutely fascinating. And what impresses me even more is the skill of the breeder who, even at such an early age of 6 weeks could obviously tell what things would let Budgy down as a show budgie. Thanks for all that hath and Lin,I'm going to print it out and study it. Also hath-when you talk about bringing him into condition,that seems to me to be what he needs right now as you may or may not know, he is having problems with a prolonged moult. What exactly do you do to bring a bird 'into condition' please? Is it something I could try with Budgy to help him? Lin-I THINK that spots are removed literally by plucking them out!
November 6, 200519 yr the spots can be plucked or cut out cut out is best as this last all season if you pull you will have to do it at least twice and mabe up to 3 times but if you cut the wrong spot then you have to try and pluck the remaining bit out and this is not easy lin to bring a birds feathering into condition he needs to be sprayed every other morning for three weeks with warm water (a good spraying) and left to preen and dry himself then after that use cold water and spray him twice a week this should see towards the end of the two weeks water bouncing of him as his feathers come into condition with their natural oils if (your water is hard boil it first)
November 6, 200519 yr Well I was looking at show budgies the other day and really they look so poofed out and it beats me how they can see where they are going My 2 show birds find it hard to fly are over weight and have trouble mating as in getting on top Here is one the retail outlet rejected I think in 2 years it will make a fine show bird
November 6, 200519 yr My 2 show birds find it hard to fly are over weight and have trouble mating as in getting on top sorry homer but if their overweight to a degree that they cant get on top then i would seriously look at the diet all my birds are show can fly and mate Here is one the retail outlet rejected I think in 2 years it will make a fine show bird you should know by 6 months as to whether its going to be a good bird i have to agree it shows promise
