Posted October 2, 200519 yr I was lucky to pick up a dual breeding cage through the week and would like other peoples opinion. Just for those that are trying to find / make a cage. Width is 580mm each section (living area not outside area) Height is 405mm Depth is 370mm The Breeding Boxes are 140mm depth x 140mm width x 180mm long. The boxes can be inspected while the mother and chicks are in the box. The Breeding cages and boxes are made from Ply not MDF. Both sections have separate removable trays to allow for cleaning. I have newspaper on the bottom which is cleaned every second day. ................................................................................ .................. Both Cages are supplied with the following: Fresh Seed Fresh Vegetables Egg and Biscuit mix Cuttle Bone Iodine and Calcium Bells. Millet Fresh Water. * The Seed is checked and old husks are removed and the seed is replenished every day. * The Fresh Vegetable in put in in the mornings and removed at lunch time. * The water is replaced daily. Old water is used on the plants.
October 2, 200519 yr Very spiffy. Are the nest boxes actually fixed inside the cage or are they hung? And out of curiosity, do you let them out for flys, or will they stay in those cages until the young fledge? I've never used an actual "breeding cage" like that and was wondering.
October 2, 200519 yr Author Very spiffy. Are the nest boxes actually fixed inside the cage or are they hung? And out of curiosity, do you let them out for flys, or will they stay in those cages until the young fledge? I've never used an actual "breeding cage" like that and was wondering. The nest boxes are on little wire shelves. You can hinge up the wire door and slide the next box out. If you pull it half way out the wire hinge acts like a lid. So you can look in to the box with out the birds flying away. Being Summer I have removed the wooden lids to help keep it cool. In the photo the hinged door is behind the breeding card. Left on the left one and right on the right one. At the moment they will be kept in there until the chicks fledge. But I have plans for a special Aviary toe keep the Cages and so that they can be let out for flying time. I am just waiting for the designs to be priced.
October 2, 200519 yr Just curious, why is that cage design desireable among breeders as opposed to something like this?: I'm not a breeder so really I can just speak from an owner's point of view but I would think it would be more ideal to have enough space to give them a next box as well as the other things a budgie needs in order to be comfortable. For example, varied perches and toys? Is there a reason that these sorts of cages have the simple two-perch layout and no toys? (I'm not trying to be picky, I really am curious to know!) It kind of saddens me to see such a double standard with pet birds vs. breeding birds. I don't know, maybe if I learned more about it I would see that it's not such a bad thing? As of now I can't imagine why it has to be that way though.
October 2, 200519 yr there is nothing wrong with those cages eterri there the ones i wanted if you remember there is no reason for not putting in varied perching as long as it secure a lot of clear eggs are laid due to the perches moving as for toys i haven't put toys as such in but have tryed things for them to chew ect and they don't seem bothered when in the breeding cages yet in the flights they will also you do not want to be desturbing the hens when you clean and feed them so you dont want to much clutter in the way
October 2, 200519 yr I see. I suppose it really depends on the cage, then. I can imagine you could secure natural wood branches so that mating is successful and if the cage was very large, there would be room for a toy or two without causing clutter? I can see the worry of disturbing the hen and such. Depends on the size/type of cage you're using I guess? I know a couple of people who have bred using either those cages I mentioned or just a normal (very large) budgie cage and they keep toys and varied perches with no problem so I'm sure it can be done, it would just be harder to do on a larger scale I suppose. I wasn't trying to say that something was necessarily wrong with those particular cages, just trying to see why they seem so desireable.
October 2, 200519 yr I wasn't trying to say that something was necessarily wrong with those particular cages, just trying to see why they seem so desireable. no a very good question i like the ones you have so all the birds can see each other as for natural perchs my biggest concern would be securing them so they didnt put the birds off enough but being able to replace them with ease if needed without disturbing the birds (if that mekes sence)
October 2, 200519 yr Ahhh, yeah. Well... the ones that you twist the backs off of are very easy to switch up but only if they're the shorter ones. That might be tricky and it would also depend on where the nest box is. I guess the ideal situation would be to have them set up so they could come out of the cage a bit for a fly around the room (or aviary)? Now that we're on the subject, if you have a breeding cage with only one large opening door (the way mine are), how do you access the nest box without disturbing the birds?
October 2, 200519 yr all my nest boxs are on the outside of the cages for easy access which doesnt help you you could do it two ways the first is the way i would do it and that is to cut a couple of the bars so that i could attach them on the out side no good for you as you use them all the time the second is to use a nest box on legs this does two jobs one ovious is a nest box second the chicks can get under when they leave the nest box for protection you would then physically bring the nest box to the door of the cage and have a side door in the nest box so you could open it and check that way not ideal in my eyes as to much disturbance to the hen
October 2, 200519 yr If the hen was really tame do you think she'd handle that second method better? Still, it does sound really disruptive anyway. Probably best to try and fit the box outside of the cage like you said.
October 2, 200519 yr lots of people still use the second method its just not for me i like the ease of outside boxs plus it gives the birds the whole cage
October 2, 200519 yr Yeah, I was thinking about space as well. It sounds ideal. I think they make breeding cages that have extra doors to attach nest boxes, right? That would be handy.
October 2, 200519 yr Author The first Breeding cage I used / built was to have the nest box outside. The box is "Clipped" on to the side of the box. The two in the Photos slide in and out of the front. The one that Hath discribbed is my preferance but where I am forced to breed they would get knocked all the time. No good for the hen or chicks.
October 3, 200519 yr if you don't mind me asking where did you get them daz as i am looking for some as my breeding cages now have the nest box attached to the outside of the cage my uncle built them as a temperary breeding situation til mum does the ones in the smaller avairy Sarah
October 3, 200519 yr Author if you don't mind me asking where did you get them daz as i am looking for some as my breeding cages now have the nest box attached to the outside of the cage my uncle built them as a temperary breeding situation til mum does the ones in the smaller avairySarah Sarah I got the Breeding cage from Brendale Produce. It's on Southpine Road Brendale. North Brisbane. Try some of the produce places at Southport. You might fine more for breeders than at Pet shops.
October 3, 200519 yr Your setting is awesome Where do you get the front part of the cages - the wiring section of it??? I've always wanted to build my own cages for all my birds, but i don't know where to get the supplies... it's really furstrating...
October 3, 200519 yr Author Your setting is awesome Where do you get the front part of the cages - the wiring section of it??? I've always wanted to build my own cages for all my birds, but i don't know where to get the supplies... it's really furstrating... Natouk I got the front of the top cage from a pet store. They had different sizes and types.
October 12, 200519 yr Author Nice set up , Daz what MM ply is the cages made of ?? cheers Nathan Hi Nathan The top one is about 8mm and the dual is about 12 - 15mm. I preffer the 12 - 15mm it's sturdier.
October 13, 200519 yr okay then is that the thick ply or the thin ply wood stuff becuase i work with 5 m ply for bird cages and that is like five pieces together
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