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Please help Since Saturday nothing is really change. He is still on the perch. Now when I put my hand inside of the cage he turn off. Today I came late from work and he was alone. more than usually. He has music playing all the day and mimic me saying Cado pretty bird.

But I am afraid he didn't eat at all !!! When I came back I gave him millet again and let him off the cage. He flied a little from one cage to anothe and still on the top of the cage. When I approach him he turn off the tail to me

He is going on finger but i really feel that it is not by pleasure and he is intimidated

he didn't touch to seeds and when I gave him the feeder he didn't want to eat..

He's also shaking him-self all the time. Especially when I move my hand to him... What doesn't it mean ? He is angry ?

What usually this bird sign mean ? I thought it was just opposit, he is relax. But apparently not.

I am very worried

 

He often opens his mouth, very large. What that can mean ?

him turning his back on you is that he is not confident with you yet. Patience Patience Patience.

The wide opening beak could be many things ranging from a nervous reaction, Yawning or food caught in throat.

It is not uncommon get what is known as a canker, this is caused by Trichmonasis and is common in Budgies, Pigeons, and Raptors such as hawks and Eagles. See http://www.budgiehea...in-budgies.html for full explanation. If you suspect this see an Avian vet. Below are a couple of pics of what to look for. although not a budgie is a good illustration of what to look for.

Edited October 30, 201311 yr by paulie

does he have a runny bum? and when you pick him up does he feel thin?

 

As paulie says it could be canker I had my original boy who was my best buddy die last year from canker. He got very thin very fast, was very fluffed up constantly, had a runny nose and mouth and got a runny bum towards the end. Sadly he didn't make it through the night at the vets'.

 

I agree totally with paulie, that you should take him to an avain vet asap and they should be able to tell you what is going on and hopefully make him feel much better! Make sure they are an avian vet though because sadly many 'normal' vets don't have the knowledge for birds.

 

also, for budgies, you can't see the lesions from canker because it affects them in their throat/oesophagus and they get lesions there which means they can't swallow food because it is too painful and blocked up and they starve very fast because they have very fast metabolisms.

Hi

I have checked but don't see anything - no running nose (how can we see it?) no vomiting, he is not apparently thin...

He is eating millet on my hand, sometimes a lot and sometimes not.

Today for the first time I have seen him to go to the feeder and eat. Not a lot, just a little. I don't see him drink at all.

He is a little more active in the cage and play with his cotton swing what he absolutely adore. He spent night today on the top of the swing. When I talked on phone today he start vocalize, but just a little, not much, so difficult to tell anything. He is kind of fluffing or flying with his wings, he is moving like he is flying but when sitting on the perch. What does it mean ? He is preening a lot and shaking him self after that. He is not sitting back to me now, more and more face me but still not volunteer to come on my hand without any millet on it. If i have millet he is coming and eating.

Now he is jumping from perch to the top of swing back and forth. okay right now he is exploring the bottom of the cage, but as soon as i stand up from my desk he flied away and sit on the perch....

Maybe he is better ? OMG !!!!! I hope it is not a canker

 

PS: By The Way, yesterday I tried to touch slowly his beck and he let me doing and even close his eyes - is it good or he was afraid ?

 

Also he is very calm and sit on perch very calmly except when i put "Happy budgies" music on youtube. He start to vocalize first a lot, then start to beat very quickly his wings, many times, and start to kind of dance with his feet and then as his cage is open (I am at home today with him) he flied away !!!! it is okay that behavior ? He is now exploring the house.

Antoher quesiton : should I let him do it ? or it is dangerous ? The first time he put him self under a small statue and was very scary and screamed. I am afraid now, but in the other hand I think in the nature they explore by them self everything

hello

Today's update...

I think i have resolved the issue of not eating... The owner fed him with small grain, just little round things. without any stuff red or green as in the parakeet mix from Dr Foster. When I asked him what to give him he showed me the Dr Foster but gave me the other one. I asked where I can buy this one and he told me that this is also part of parakeet mix and then he will probably eat what he wants from the mix in the beginning.

But day I put in the feeder his grains, and yesterday parakeet mix but all these red and green stuff was on top. When i presented it to him he didn't want to eat.

So today i decided to try mix up and all small grains was on top and he ate a lot

i showed him and he jumped on the feeder and start to eat and then I posed him on the bottom of the cage with the feeder and he ated again

now he is singing

 

when budgie open mouth not very large (not like yawning) is it possible to be positive sign ? when i come to see him and start say Cado pretty bird the sentence he hear all the time or when i put music that he likes or budgies sounds on youtube he start open the mouth and then grinning noise. Is it nervous ?or it can be good feeling ?

Kiwibudgie, I don't know much at all about budgie diseases, but his behavior sounds to me like he is getting more comfortable with his new home It is important that he eats because budgies are so small that they lose weight rapidly. I hope he is healthy and just needs some time to settle... Good luck with your little guy

 

I agree totally with paulie, that you should take him to an avain vet asap

 

That is NOT what Paulie said! He said IF you suspect canker, THEN take him to the vet.

 

This bird does not have canker.

 

 

The wide opening beak could be many things ranging from a nervous reaction, Yawning or food caught in throat.

You should have stopped right there.

 

Seriously, Paulie, Kiwibudgie is paranoid enough over every little thing Cado does without you throwing in pictures of owls with growths in their mouths. There are no other symptoms whatsoever to make anyone jump to the idea that he could have canker. Sheesh.

 

Scaring poor Kiwibudgie for nothing.

Hi, I think you said he is only 8 weeks old. If this is so he's still a baby, it will take months of training for him to sit on your finger, learn to speak etc. I think you might be expecting to much to early, don't worry over everything he does or doesn't do and let him settle into a routine that he will create for himself .

Finnie

At no point did i say that this bird has canker, I am purely providing information and ideas.

 

I have had 3 birds that I have purchased at various times turn out to have canker (Trichmonasis) and presented symptoms on the tongue as in the picture of the owl, fortunately not to the extreme in that picture. I did not say that I thought Kiwi's budgie had canker rather something to be aware of.

It is easy to check if presenting in the mouth, not so easy if presenting in the throat and in budgies it does both. Wait for bird to yawn ,if it does have canker it will do this a lot, have a good look in and see what there is to be seen. I also did state "If you suspect this see an Avian vet". If it does have Canker it can be treated if not Canker then the stress is gone. The picture of the Owl is an excellent representation of how this protozoa can manifest in ALL affected species. Parrots(includes budgies), Raptors(includes owls) and Pigeons

 

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Seriously, Paulie, Kiwibudgie is paranoid enough over every little thing Cado does without you throwing in pictures of owls with growths in their mouths. There are no other symptoms whatsoever to make anyone jump to the idea that he could have canker. Sheesh.

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There are no other symptoms described by Kiwi other than the apparent screaming at this time.

As a moderator with considerable knowledge should understand that there are many things that will cause a bird to Yawn, being tired is not one of them, Yawning to stretch and exercise the muscles of the face, a lodged seed, a nervous reaction or warning, Canker and many other causes. as stated in my post.

 

​My apologies to Kiwi if the info and my opinion have caused Kiwi stress, but not for providing accurate info.

 

 

Paulie

lol lol lol

Sorry guys to be paranoid.. but as i don't understand a lot i was just a little (lol) scarred...

I think he is doing better now. He took his first bath !!!!!and really enjoyed it !!!!!!!!!111 (yupee)

and he explored the new environment.

He doesn't want to sit on my hand if there is no millet on the view, but it is okay

thank you so much for all your support !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and advises !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and help