Hi,

I have several pied budgies of different colours, I believe I know whether they are dominant or recessive pied, but would like some second opinions please?

Also if they are male or female and if they have any other mutations, thanks!!

 

1. Recessive pied, male (yellow based?)

 

 

2. Dominant pied, male (cobalt)

 

3. Recessive pied, hen (sky blue)

 

Edited February 12, 201312 yr by kathryn92

4. Recessive pied, male (cobalt)

 

 

5. Dominant pied, male (sky blue, yellow face II)

 

 

6. Recessive pied, male (Yellow face II, grey wing-possibly)

 

 

7. Double factor dominant pied, male (grey?)

 

8. Recessive pied, hen (yellow face or golden face? colour?)

 

9. Dark eyed clear, hen (I'll get a better photo)

 

Some of these birds are already on the forum, however I wanted to put them all together to compare, thanks

Looks like you have them all right except for the top one looks more like yellowface series to me than green series. I think he looks like yellowface mutant two grey.

 

And then your double factor dom pied hen, it's hard to confirm that without seeing her back. But even then a bird can look double factor, but still only be single factor. It would depend on whether she ever throws any normal offspring or only dominant pied offspring.

I agree with Finnie about the top one.

The dark eyed clear is more than likely a double factor spangle, check to see if it has iris rings or not though you can also get recessive pied double factor spangles which won't have iris rings.

Breeding results will soon tell you.

The second dominant pied male looks to be violet cobalt.

How old is number six is he fully coloured?

Number 8 hen looks goldenface cobalt recessive pied.

Cheers Jenny

The white hen, has dark eyes without any iris that I can see, breeding her should show her genetics properly shouldn't it, all chicks would be spangle if she is?

Oh cool, I thought he might be!

I believe he is young, around 6 months or less, but I am not 100% for number 6

Oh and the bird that I believe is double factor, I will see if I can get some more photos

Correct on the double factor spangle she will produce only spangles or double factors as well if she is bred with another spangle.

I would breed her with a non spangle first to see what she produces.

Cheers Jenny

Okay, well I will check her out, if she does have recessive pied genes, spangle does show up on recessive birds still doesn't it as I would like to try and produce more recessive pieds, so if I bred her with one of my recessive pieds they would show as spangle?

Yes they would be spangle recessive pied if she is recessive pied as well as double factor spangle.

Recessive pied is good for pairing dark eyed clears to as well.

Cheers Jenny

Yes they would be spangle recessive pied if she is recessive pied as well as double factor spangle.

Recessive pied is good for pairing dark eyed clears to as well.

Cheers Jenny

 

This is the same thing I was going to say, until I saw that Jenny already wrote it. If you get any spangle chicks that are not recessive pied, then you know the hen is not a recessive pied, and if you get both recessive pieds and normals, then you know the hen is split to recessive pied.

 

Recessive pied spangles are very pretty in yellowface. You could use that new beautiful boy when he grows up, and that would also test the white mother for if she is carrying greywing. (Lol, look at me, breeding vicariously through your birds! You just go ahead and pair them up however you please. )

That sounds like a perfect match :3

She is only young herself less than a year for sure (around 8 months now, the photo is old), so we will have to wait a little while for her as well as him, but hopefully they make some cute chicks as I think I will have to save them for one another!!