Posted January 2, 201312 yr * Topic ERROR: Should have read 'Your Newest Member', sorry about that.* Hello everyone, It's been a couple of years since my last budgie Leo passed away and felt it was time to get some more. I really hate seeing birds stuck in small cages and made the decision to start saving for a proper aviary to have happy birds, and decided on getting only 2 male budgies or 2 lovebirds, so they have plenty of room to move around. I am in a unit block, downstairs, and have a courtyard off my bedroom. Its well protected from the weather where they will get filtered sunlight and fresh air. I finally cleaned out all the rubbish and found it was the perfect size for an aviary/shed 1.52m x 078 Deep ZAA1508IFIC so I cant wait to get one. I've spent days researching the net on budgies, food, plants, toxic/safe, health issues and toys etc. The avairy/shed will be on bricks so I am going to need a floor and I see most people have a concrete slab but as its right by my bedroom I WONT be able to use a hose to clean it. I was considering either sand or.... Catlux Clumping Cat LItter - its soft, sawdust and supposed to be natural and is flushable. I have been using it for my cat for years and she loves it. It says on the pack not for chooks but wondered it if would be okay? I'd appreciate any thoughts/advice on this. Or else I will have to use sand. Also is it sufficieint for me to get a aluminium/metal 'tray' made as a flooring rather than concrete?? Then I can put the Dolomite and Sand on the top of that??? I want to do this right and not rush in and make any mistakes.... but I am soooo excited & want it all TODAY!! lol. Cheers, Helen xo Edited January 2, 201312 yr by Heletia
January 3, 201312 yr Hi welcome to the BBC forum! Sorry I cant answer your questions, I've never had an aviary.
January 3, 201312 yr Author Hi, thanks for the welcome. No problem I'm sure someone might be able to help . Cheers Helen xo
January 4, 201312 yr Author Hey all, I found the answers I was looking for so I'm on the way now. Dolomite (lime) isn't needed when using sand as its for soil to kill off any worms as the sand is mainly anti-bacterial there shouldn't be any worms, especially if I worm the budgies 3 monthly. Plus its so much easier to scoop out the portions poop regularly and not have to change the whole flooring. I will be able to get bulk sand from my local Landscaper - Murray River Sand which is ideal as it contains grit. I am onto our local sheet meal company to get the flooring tray made. I am in a block of 12 units at the bottom middle left. I have the perfect enclosed area off my bedroom that leads out to the courtyard. Its far too hot to put the aviary right at the back against the fence where it would be unprotected. This spot will be perfect. http://tinypic.com/r/23gzl0p/6 This is to the left where the Aviary will be placed once its all cleaned out - check out the peeking cat! lol Chelsie is 17 years old and has bad arthritis in her hind legs and isn't interested in anything any more except sleeping! She was fine when I had Leo inside in a cage a couple of years ago, but she may get jealous and 'WANT' to sleep up on the top but if she some how managers to get up there - shes won't be able to get back down! lol Unless she figured out she could slide down the side which will probably be too painful so I think she may only try it the once. http://tinypic.com/r/2ytpd8m/6 This is the shade cloth blind I have so if it gets over hot or windy or rains I can lower it for even more protection. http://tinypic.com/r/4ktcf5/6 I have designed a plan on paper of what I want inside and have realized NOT to clutter it, so the birds have room to move about. Ive also figured out the best places to have perches/branches from front to back and one on an angle and NOT across so it wont restrict their flight path downwards. PLANTS: I was intending to place 2 bushes one each side but Now I think think one will suffice. I will put it on the left hand side as the door is on the right and it will be a native Bottle-Brush. I will also grow a couple of Grevilleas in a pot so I can change them every few days to give the birds a change. I am lucky in this street we have a whole row of Eucalyptus trees so no shortage of perches there. I thought perhaps a nice rock or two for decoration on the floor. I am hoping with the door being on the right when I go in the birds might stay in the bush area on the left so they cant fly out. FOOD: Not sure yet whether to put in a shelf for the food and water or just use the stainless steel bowls to the mesh and have a perch in front of them. Thought it best to keep it away from the tree (main pooping area) and have them over to the right on the front of the aviary, to the left of the door. TOYS: I have been looking at some people's photos to see what the birds actually play with and see that the Sisal Bungee looks popular. I will probably get a ladder and a perhaps a couple of those triangle shapes 'beds' they may like to sleep in and of course mirrors. HOW MANY?: I was only considering 2 male budgies but have been told with that size I could easily have 4. I am concerned about the noise factor at night. Other tenants have birds inside in cages so they wont mind them during the day, but as the bedrooms are all along side mine, if the birds are to noisy they wont be impressed. I will attach a curtain at the top corners and use that at night, so hopefully they will remain quiet. Its just that at 4:00am all the neighborhood go off and my budgies might want to join in! lol So.. all I have to do now is sit back and save! lol Cheers, Helen xo Edited January 4, 201312 yr by Heletia
January 4, 201312 yr Sounds great Just a couple things, don't give them mirrors; it can frustrate or confuse the budgies because the bird in mirror does everything they do, you know. And also, those triangle nest hut things can trigger nesting behavior, and also apparently can be dangerous too.
January 4, 201312 yr Author Oh! Gosh! I thought they loved mirrors and i've seen many budgies chatting to them but that's only in cages by themselves. okay, no worries so they will be stimulated enough with each other and the other toys?? Ah okay thanks for the tip on those huts too. Silly question... where will the budgies sleep??? Sitting on the perch/branch in the open or will they snuggle/nestle in the tree?? That's why i was wondering if I needed to put 2 trees in with 2 or 4 budgies. Is it necessary for me to add a box (not a nesting one) an open fronted small one with only a perch for them to sleep on?? would they feel safe having one of those boxes or is it not necessary?? I was going to put a couple of boston ferns on the bottom tray... and try to regularly prune the Bottle Brush tree so its branchy but tall, so maybe i will put a grevillea in too then. Any suggestions re shrubs & trees gratefully accepted. :-) Its hard to tell judging by photos and not actually having the aviary itself to work with yet. It might be bigger than I think! lol Cheers Helen xo Edited January 4, 201312 yr by Heletia
January 5, 201312 yr They just sleep sitting on the branches; I only have one budgie, so I'm not sure if they snuggle up or not, but they don't need a nest to sleep in. Yeah, budgies seem to like mirrors, and maybe it'd be okay with more than 1 budgie, but with just a single bird, they might get frustrated with the mirror because its their only bird friend, and it doesn't ever do anything different. Some people give their budgies mirror toys, some don't. But I think at this forum it is generally decided that mirrors are bad.
January 5, 201312 yr Author Thanks Birdlove. I always thought that was the whole point of having the mirror was to have a 'friend' for a single caged budgie. My last budgie Leo (was just him in the cage) loved his mirror and chatted to it all day. He would hold onto it with his left foot to make sure it stood still and listened to what he was saying! lol Whenever I removed it to clean it he'd go berserk at me but as soon as I put it back he happily chatted to it again. I guess just because they like something doesn't necessarily mean it's good for them. Seems Budgies all have their own personalities and behave differently per bird. I never did actually watch him sleep but guessed they just sat on a perch. Edited January 5, 201312 yr by Heletia
January 21, 201312 yr Your title is all fixed! Welcome to the forum. Sounds like you have been having a great time planning! I agree with what Birdlove has told you about the mirrors. The reason a single budgie loves his mirror so much is because he is desperate for a friend, and the mirror is his only choice. But it pretty much causes them to develop OCD and separation anxiety issues, hence him going "beserk" when you take the mirror out for cleaning, and also why he spends all day with his beak attached to the mirror, and does nothing else. A bird in a mirror looks like another budgie, but can't possible supply the necessary preening and companionship that a real bird can. That's why it's bad for their mental health. And then that can lead to behavior problems, say for instance some peoples budgie will attack anyone who tries to go near their mirror "friend". That's why we say not to give mirrors. But I always feel like mirrors aren't such a problem when you have many birds in one cage, because then they have real birds to choose from, and aren't dependant on a mirror. Then the mirror is just for fun. As for live plants in your aviary, they don't stand much chance against budgie chewing, but with only two birds, and if you rotate the plans in and out of the cage to give them a chance to re-grow, you might get away with it. Have fun with it. Half the enjoyment is in the planning and acquiring stage!