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Can anyone here tell me what mutations my birds are. I think the white one is albino she has a tint of blue or grey hard to see.

 

I'm unsure what the male is.

 

 

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Not sure what this male is, he has a really nice shiny blue on his rump and the female not sure.

 

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your blue male in the photo above has scalyface mites on his cere and feet.....he needs urgent treatment with ivermectin....and whilst you are treating him treat them all

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agree treat the flock for Scalyface mites.

 

Top picture: Cobalt Opaline male. Does the hen have red eyes?

Bottom picture: Cobalt Dominant Pied Male. He might be opaline as well but I can't see enough of his back. Cobalt Spangle hen.

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Thanks for that yeah I knew about the mites, I have this pet shop mite stuff. that we used at my girlfriends place on one of her sons birds.

 

not sure if it works or not it took ages for it to disappear off this other bird.

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Hi if you could post some better pictures it will be easier to tell what mutations they are, your top male looks also to be greywing or cinnamon but you can't see his wing markings properly, the hen may be double factor spangle if she has black eyes with iris rings or albino if red eyed.

I partly agree with nerwen on the other two except they look more skyblue on my monitor the male may also be spangle but we can't see his back either.

If you can get a hold of some ivermectin for his scaleyface it is much easier to treat them with and less stressful and messy than the product they sell from the pet shops, you only need to put a couple of drops on their skin and repeat in a couple of weeks just to make sure.

Cheers Jenny

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ended up at the vet I have got some of that ivermectin she said treat the budgies infected area's with it.

But I am not liking the idea of it. Is there another way with invermectin?

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(Shoot two birds with one click) both females in question.

 

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these 3 here the white 1 waiting to know sex I see a tint of blue on cere and it is lutino pretty positive. not sure what the greens are left to right female male.

 

here is a album with more shoots.

 

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As stated before - Cobalt Dominant Pied Opaline - thanks for the wing shots

 

 

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I think she is a sky blue not Cobalt as I said before - Sky Blue Spangle

 

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Are these two new? or is this the 'white' hen from the first post?

 

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Male in front - Yellow face Opaline Greywing

 

 

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Top left green - Dominant PIed

Top right Green - Dark Green Opaline Spangle

 

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With the scaly mite treatment that is normally done as a spot on the back of neck.

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Thanks thats what I thought I had been reading. But wasn't sure. so ivermectin on the back of neck?

 

Hope someone answers my above questions too but I suppose their health is more important than genetics :)

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Thanks Nerwen much appreciated.

 

Yes the white hen is from first post.

 

she is not albino she has a tint of blue.

Very pretty birds L-J, as to Ivomectin I hope she gave you the bird strength, ONE DROP, back of neck. Repeat in 2 weeks if needed, also do ALL your birds. They could all be infected so it's a good idea to treat the lot. :)

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Thanks for that can some one tell me what my white hen is?

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Not albino - if she has red eyes I would say Opaline Fallow.

If eyes are black maybe Opaline Dilute

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Opaline Dilute

 

Thanks nerwen.

 

I'm going to struggle with this for awhile, Wish I had got back into budgies sooner than 27.

 

I was 8 when I last had a budgie.

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Can some one tell me what mutation I will get from the Opaline Fallow and Dark Green Opaline Spangle.

 

Probably even give me a example. I can't wait them two have been going at it all day.

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I don't know, Nerwen, I think the male is a sky blue too. They might be violet factored. Is it the same male as below?

 

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As stated before - Cobalt Dominant Pied Opaline - thanks for the wing shots

 

 

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I think she is a sky blue not Cobalt as I said before - Sky Blue Spangle

 

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Are these two new? or is this the 'white' hen from the first post? It's possible this hen could be a cinnamon opaline greywing. You would need to test breed to find out, though. Is this the one you said was opaline fallow? What color are her eyes?

 

 

 

 

For the pair that you want outcomes for, can you post photos of which ones those are, exactly?

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The Cock in the middle

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and this hen

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I'm not so sure he's a green. He looks like a yellowface or golden face cobalt from here. He seems quite blue. Especially in this photo, where he's right next to the dark green dominant pied:

 

 

 

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Did you check to see if that hen has red or black eyes?

 

Opaline spangle dark green X Opaline Fallow (if her eyes are red) sky blue (guessing on body color) gives:

 

100% opaline chicks

50% spangle chicks

50% light green chicks

50% dark green chicks

(No blues, unless the male is split to blue, and then it would be 25% light green, 25% sky blue, 25% dark green, 25% cobalt)

All male chicks split to fallow, and none visual unless the father happens to be split to it.

 

If the father is a yellowface instead of a green, then the percentages are the same, just change the words "light green" and "dark green" to "yellowface sky blue" and "yellowface cobalt".

 

If the mother is a dilute instead of a fallow, then all the chicks will be split to dilute, regardless of gender, and none will be visual dilutes unless the father is split to it. If the father is split to some other allele in the dilution series, then you would get 50% of chicks whatever he is split to. (Greywing or clearwing)

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the hen has black eyes.

 

Also she booted the green bird and is with this male now, not sure what he is ahhh these Mutations are confusing.

 

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He's a nice looking bird. From that photo he looks like an opaline grey. His cheek patches look black.

 

So your hen is a dilute, since she has black eyes. However, since you are colony breeding, you won't be able to know who the father is. She could mate with several males, and different eggs in her clutch could have different fathers.

 

Guess you will just have to wait to see what outcomes the chicks are. :)

 

Genetics are like a fun puzzle, but yes they can be confusing. Even more so when you colony breed, because nothing is certain.

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yeah I removed green bird when I realized she wasn't interested in him anymore.

 

I only have two pairs

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Can someone tell me what these 3 are I think there is a violet Opaline, not sure if other is a violet normal, unsure on the grey green bird.

 

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pretty sure the guy with the white head is violet Opaline

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bumpity bump.

 

I really need to sit down and study these mutations.

Violets are hard to tell in photos you are the best judge on the colour and yes he is opaline.

Your other male is a yellowface grey type 2.

 

Cheers Jenny

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Thanks Jenny.

 

Colbolt Opaline.

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