Hello there! Got new hen and I wonder what is her mutation from the looks. Both the hen and the cock green color but when the cock is yellow face type two normal green (for my opinion hehe at least) the hen have very ligh green coloration and defently not normal. From what I read here about the genetics - she simms to me opaline greywing but I am really unsure. I must admit that I am not planing any line breeding and I do not mind what color the chicks will be but still I am curios to know her genetics. Here is the photo - the colors are not as good as in rl but still you can see her on the right side here. What you think?

 

 

you male isn't " yellow face type two normal green" he is just normal green.

The yellowface part is in relation to a gene for white bases birds (blues) as all greens have yellow faces.

 

You are correct that she is opaline but not greywing - tail and flight feathers are normal dark colour not greyish.

What Nerwen said you have a normal light green and a light green opaline and on my laptop screen also cinnamon.

 

Hope that helps.

Jodie.

Jodie Cinnamon on who?? I don't see it on either of them

Jodie Cinnamon on who?? I don't see it on either of them

On the opaline but my laptop shows colours differently than my computer. So she probably isn't. I just said on my laptop I see cinnamon (but it could be my laptop)

hehe thanks guys. As I said I am still bad in genetics so i was very wrong here hehe. i gess I still do not know what yellow face really means....

I'm still learning, too. Check out this website. It's been very helpful to me.

 

http://www.budgieplace.com/colors.html

 

http://www.budgieplace.com/c_basecolor.html

 

http://www.budgieplace.com/c_yellowface.html

 

Hope this helps.

No worries olgalit thats what the forum is for. You learn along the way also.

Yellow face is a mutation that is a recessive gene that is only as Nerwen said in white based birds (the blues and greys) Greens are a dark based gene that can't have the mutation yellow face.

They do have yellow faces but that is a normal occurrence they are refered to (Normal greens) They look like your boy on the left of the photo. The (Normal blues) have white faces.

So when the gene yellow face occures in the blues it is yellow face because its not a the natural colour of the blue budgie. (Even though the blue budgie isnt something that appears in nature~But I dont want to confuse you more)

Because the yellow face gene is recessive it can be carried in a green bird but it doesnt show its something you'd find out in breeding with a (blue/grey budgie)

yep we all have to start somewhere with budgie genetics and I think you did great trying to work them out yourself first.

 

Adding ti Jodies info - yellow face is dominant to the normal blue gene. and there are three types: yellow face type one: pale yellow mask, white wings and body is all blue. Type two: yellow mask, yellow wings, body will get 'bleeding' of yellow into the feathers making them green (chest area), and Goldenface: Deep yellow mask, yellow wings, body will get 'bleeding' of yellow into the feathers making them green, some times these birds can almost appear normal green.

thanks guys Now I understand it much better ^^. So if the gene is rececive it will be always shown on a blue female? lets say hypoteticly we taking a pair like this - normal green male and normal blue female and one of the chicks is blue with a yellow face - is it safe to asume that it is certanly female and the father of this bird carries the yellow face gen?

no it is only sex lined genes that have to appear on the female if both parents are not showing the gene. Recessive is different it can be carried by both genders.

 

In the example above it is a tricky answer. If the young was a type 2 yellowface it would be the male that is split (carries) the gene as the gene can not be carried unseen in a normal blue bird. However type 1 yellow face gene can have an affect where the bird looks normal but in fact has two genes for yellow face (double factor) so when the young get one gene from the hen it will appear yellow face. In either care the chick can still be either gender.

 

easier example: normal blue male and normal blue female - recessive pied young. This means both of the parents are slpit (carry) the recessive pied gene and the chick can be either gender.

Sex linked example: normal blue male and normal blue female - Cinnamon young. This bird has to be female and the father gave the split gene to her.

 

hope this is understandable.