Is this budgie a Greywing, Full Bodied Greywing or Cinnamon?

What's the exact mutation?

 

I presume it is Greywing Skyblue?

 

And what can I expect if I breed her (later, I know she's young) to Winter, my male Full Bodied Greywing Violet cobalt?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Winter

 

 

 

By the way, when I noticed her at the pet store, she seemed healthy and no tail bobbing....but her tail is bobbing slightly now. Is this normal with new budgies, because I haven't seen any of my other 4 budgies do it when they were new?

No feedback?

Be patient. It's night time here in Aus and most people sleep at night..

Looks greywing to me..

You will breed 100% greywings if mated to another greywing.

It seems to be greywing on first look BUT a greywing has a grey tail quill and yours hasnt.

Hi, as to the tail bobbing, how long have you had her? It may be just stress from moving etc .

Have you quarantined her if she's new. I'd keep a close eye on her to see it's not respiratory, or some other illness. If she starts to look fluffed up etc she will need help or vet advice.

It seems to be greywing on first look BUT a greywing has a grey tail quill and yours hasnt.

 

If not greywing, then what's her mutation?

To me the colour seems grey, but when I compare her to my FBC Greywing, his wings are whiter than her's...and I presume that the difference occurred due to the difference between FBC Greywing and Greywing...

 

Hi, as to the tail bobbing, how long have you had her? It may be just stress from moving etc .

Have you quarantined her if she's new. I'd keep a close eye on her to see it's not respiratory, or some other illness. If she starts to look fluffed up etc she will need help or vet advice.

 

Yes she is quarantined.

The tail bobbing seemed to have stopped. I've had her for a day now, so I guess she was simply scared at that time.

Thank you.

Any more clarification?

I was told by a breeder that she is a "Misty" budgie?

I was told by a breeder that she is a "Misty" budgie?

 

 

No such thing. Its a made up name by that "breeder"who told you that.

 

As far as clarification goes.............she appears to greywing but the tail quill is wrong. Its entirely possible that due to errors of identification her parents may have been possible clearwing and greywing or something like that......I cant be sure. BUT clearwing in her parentage may be why her tail quill is not grey. She may be a mix.

I was told by a breeder that she is a "Misty" budgie?

 

 

No such thing. Its a made up name by that "breeder"who told you that.

 

As far as clarification goes.............she appears to greywing but the tail quill is wrong. Its entirely possible that due to errors of identification her parents may have been possible clearwing and greywing or something like that......I cant be sure. BUT clearwing in her parentage may be why her tail quill is not grey. She may be a mix.

 

 

Actually I found a link on a website regarding this "Misty" mutation.

So this website has false information?

 

http://www.budgeriga...ckfaces-mistys/

And doesn't a Clearwing and Greywing's combination produce Full Bodied Greywing?

My FBC Greywing does have a grey tail at the end of it.

Anyways, what can I expect if I breed her to my FBC Greywing Violet Cobalt?

Thanks for the clarification

 

Edited May 7, 201213 yr by Rashu

The tail quill is the middle spine of the tail running down the length of it not the tail feather colour itself.

It's a greywing.

 

Kaz in the top photos the tail quill is definitely grey (looks like these pics are taken without flash) the bottom one shows blue tail feather but the picture appears to have been taken with flash or colour enhanced somehow.

It's a greywing.

 

Kaz in the top photos the tail quill is definitely grey (looks like these pics are taken without flash) the bottom one shows blue tail feather but the picture appears to have been taken with flash or colour enhanced somehow.

 

Thanks.

And what's her body colour? Skyblue or Cobalt?

I think it's Skyblue but someone on another forum said that she is Cobalt because greywing diluted her colour.

Can you shed some light to this?

Thank you.

It's usually pretty easy to tell the difference between a greywing cobalt and a sky blue. But for some reason today, whether it's the photos, my monitor, or my eyes, I'm not quite sure about yours. But compare her to your Emmet, who is a sky blue, and your Sky, who is a cobalt. You should be able to tell which one she resembles more. Yes, greywing does lighten the cobalt, but it doesn't give it the same hue that the sky blues have.

 

 

Hope that helps until somebody else comes along with an opinion.

I'd say skyblue. Usually cobalts body colour is kind of patchy but so is this girls but she appears to still be moulting into her adult plummage which will give a similar patchy effect until she's fully moulted. The hue of her body colour is not deep enough for cobalt even with the dilution caused by the greywing.

 

Oh and my inability to completely read posts strikes again! I didn't read carefully enough to see that the bottom picture is of another bird DOH! Didn't even notice the whole boy v girl thing. Sorry Kaz!

 

Definitely a sky greywing though going on these pics.

Edited May 14, 201212 yr by nubbly5

It seems to be greywing on first look BUT a greywing has a grey tail quill and yours hasnt.

 

 

This is the tail quill colour I was referring to

There are still going to be variations in the variety and I'd say if you compared this bird closely with a bird that has a true neutral tail quill she'd still have a more grey quill than not BUT from the bit of experience I've had breeding clearwings I'd have to say that many of the features that the standard says dictates either a clearwing, a greywing or a dilute are all a bit interchangable. A clearwing bred from clearwings but with heavy markings will often carry a grey tail quill when it's supposed to be neutral. A dilute bred from clearwings will often carry wings completely devoid of markings but be diluted in body colour. These features that the standard says make a variety one or the other are not as cut and dried as we tend to think. It seems these features (modifiers) can carry over to the other varieties in this allelic series.

 

Still this bird, although not having a noticable grey tail quill, does in all other respects appear to be a greywing. It's not a clearwing that's for sure what else can it be.

I believe it to be a greywing too. The thing is with greywings, clearwings and dilutes, so many have been misidentified and bred together willy nilly due to not identifying them correctly that I believe there are many "mixes" around now too affecting these identifying features. By "mixes" I dont mean a bird being more than one kind at the one time as we know you cant here, but with another variety in its genetic heritage...parents, grandparents etc. Its muddied the gene pool kind of

This is very related to my question about modifying genes. I'm going to go add pics to that one and bump it.

 

Really good to see you posting, Nubbly!

whether it's the photos, my monitor, or my eyes, I'm not quite sure about yours. But compare her to your Emmet, who is a sky blue, and your Sky, who is a cobalt. You should be able to tell which one she resembles more. Yes, greywing does lighten the cobalt, but it doesn't give it the same hue that the sky blues have.

 

 

 

Maybe Skyblue?

 

 

Is this a greywing or a full-body grey-wing

 

Is this a greywing or a full-body grey-wing

 

Tywee4, you need to start your own thread for this. I thought this was another of Rashu's birds, until I looked more carefully and saw that you are not Rashu.

 

Also, when you do start another thread, please put up a larger photo, and if you can show the body from the front, and a shot of the cheek patch, it will help.

okay ill try