Hi anyone :-)

 

This is my budgie, Butters.

It is between four and five years old.

Butters' cere has never given me or the previous owner a clear indication of it's sex.

Can someone please help me?

 

Thank you :-)

 

Ellie

 

P.S: Butter's lived alone with a female for at least four years and they never became close (limited preening & no kissing).

Also, can someone please tell me what he/she is (pied, albino etc)?

 

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Edited August 31, 201113 yr by Ellie

girl i think thats all i can giv you

 

 

Edited August 31, 201113 yr by dillster

Sorry Dillster but he is definitely a recessive pied cock bird.

 

A recessive pied cock birds cere doesn't turn blue like your other varieties, neither do the albinos, lutinos, lacewings and fallows. They stay a pink fleshy colour. The hens cere acts like other varitieties.

Sorry Dillster but he is definitely a recessive pied cock bird.

 

A recessive pied cock birds cere doesn't turn blue like your other varieties, neither do the albinos, lutinos, lacewings and fallows. They stay a pink fleshy colour. The hens cere acts like other varitieties.

 

 

Sorry Fordmob but you are incorrect. The bird has iris rings and no recessive pied has iris rings.

 

It is a male though..........either lightly marked dominant pied or a df dominant pied but not recessive.

 

girl i think thats all i can giv you

 

 

Girl ? NOPE........boy

Edited August 31, 201113 yr by **KAZ**

yep kaz is corect

im going df dom pied light green cock im even going to go as far as calling opaline

Thanks for the feedback guys. :-x

I'm so happy! ^-^

I have two males to four females now which is alot better than one male to five females!

 

I don't think I'll ever get the hang of this genetics thing.

I've been doing my research and feel none the wiser! *derp*

Hey Ellie can you get another close up macro photo of it's eye.

Both eyes .................the right eye has an iris ring. If the bird is df dom pied the other eye may not have an iris ring....its common in DF dom pieds for one eye to have an iris ring and the other not.

 

The photo you already put up shows an iris ring in the right eye, which means NOT recessive pied.

 

( Not convinced Fordmob ?? )

Both eyes .................the right eye has an iris ring. If the bird is df dom pied the other eye may not have an iris ring....its common in DF dom pieds for one eye to have an iris ring and the other not.

 

The photo you already put up shows an iris ring in the right eye, which means NOT recessive pied.

 

( Not convinced Fordmob ?? )

 

I had a reply typed where I had conceded that I had a boy look, but I just want to make sure that it is an Iris ring before I concede.

 

The photo is a little out of focus at the eye and the eye looks like it is turned in the eye socket which may give the appearance of an iris ring. The colour in the eye looks too far toward the edge of the eye to be an iris ring.

 

Then again it could just be an iris ring in which case I will post a photo of myself with a dunce hat on.

I have a dom pied cock here and his cere is nearly always pinkish, it never seems to turn blue. But he is totally fertile and he has won best adult in Interemediate this year with his pinky type cere.

:D

It was funny because I thought they would of said he was out of condition but it must be normal.

It is, I believe what RIP calls being "pied out" the differences in ceres and iris rings in eyes, and markings on wings

Said it in one Kaz.

 

Splat the pied or mottled markings on the pied can also affect the cere so if you imagine a cere with pigment removed by the pied gene you have the pink/purple cere - can occur in patches too so some of the cere can be blue whilst parts of it (that bear the pied markings) remain pink.Even on this bird there is a tiny bit of blue in the centre of the cere the rest of it is pied out.

Edited September 1, 201113 yr by nubbly5

That's is exactly what he is like, he some times has a little bit of blue but mostly the pinky purple colour.

I guess I could try and take some photo's of his eyes.

Butters isn't very tame but I'll do my best!

Both eyes .................the right eye has an iris ring. If the bird is df dom pied the other eye may not have an iris ring....its common in DF dom pieds for one eye to have an iris ring and the other not.

 

The photo you already put up shows an iris ring in the right eye, which means NOT recessive pied.

 

( Not convinced Fordmob ?? )

 

I had a reply typed where I had conceded that I had a boy look, but I just want to make sure that it is an Iris ring before I concede.

 

The photo is a little out of focus at the eye and the eye looks like it is turned in the eye socket which may give the appearance of an iris ring. The colour in the eye looks too far toward the edge of the eye to be an iris ring.

 

Then again it could just be an iris ring in which case I will post a photo of myself with a dunce hat on.

 

In Fordmob's defence, I also thought that to me, the iris ring in that photo looked more like a thick eye lid. Maybe I will be wearing a dunce hat, too.

Both eyes .................the right eye has an iris ring. If the bird is df dom pied the other eye may not have an iris ring....its common in DF dom pieds for one eye to have an iris ring and the other not.

 

The photo you already put up shows an iris ring in the right eye, which means NOT recessive pied.

 

( Not convinced Fordmob ?? )

 

I had a reply typed where I had conceded that I had a boy look, but I just want to make sure that it is an Iris ring before I concede.

 

The photo is a little out of focus at the eye and the eye looks like it is turned in the eye socket which may give the appearance of an iris ring. The colour in the eye looks too far toward the edge of the eye to be an iris ring.

 

Then again it could just be an iris ring in which case I will post a photo of myself with a dunce hat on.

 

In Fordmob's defence, I also thought that to me, the iris ring in that photo looked more like a thick eye lid. Maybe I will be wearing a dunce hat, too.

 

 

Hats for everybody - :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

well im always happy to wear a hat if it fits so but i do agree with kaz it looks very much like and iris ring

although he does look more like a rec than a df dom except that he has alot of striping down back of head to me confirms the df dom deal

pics of him from back would be cool as well as i could see if he is in fact also Opaline

it is clearly an iris ring and not part of the skin around the eye.

it is clearly an iris ring and not part of the skin around the eye.

 

 

 

Shall we order those hats yet ?

Shall we order those hats yet ?

 

I think I'm a size 57 in hats.

sorry guys.

i completely forgot to take those photo's & can't do it now as my boyfriend accidentally let butters out when he was entering the aviary!

men -.-

haha