October 10, 201113 yr Author I do not think it is the hen Renee. I think it is Quiche. He is a prime candidate for AI as I am not sure he can actually mate due to his feather issues.
October 10, 201113 yr I think it is Quiche. He is a prime candidate for AI as I am not sure he can actually mate due to his feather issues. Really? Quill mites affecting mating? Are you sure? I have never heard of that. How does that work?
October 10, 201113 yr Author Balance would be his biggest issue I think. I am not sure he can balance for mating
October 10, 201113 yr Balance would be his biggest issue I think. I am not sure he can balance for mating Yes balance is pivotal to mating but how have the Quill Mites affected his balance?
October 11, 201113 yr Author not sure it is quill mites. He has lost tail feathers and flight feathers.
October 12, 201113 yr not sure it is quill mites. He has lost tail feathers and flight feathers. Sorry to hear that Dave. I have had tailess wonders fill eggs, but never the no flighters. I think there is something vital about the wing feathers, the way the cock bird extends them for balance when mating. When did Quiche lose his flights? If I remember rightly he still had them when he got to your place, didn't he?
October 12, 201113 yr Author He lost them not long after he got to my place. He was moulting I think when he traveled and the stress of moulting and travelling combined to see him develop what looks to be French moult, and so he has no flights. That is why there is no mating - I do no think he can. If only I knew he could be AI'd, or I could do it. Maybe someone knows someone who can help me out who has done it before, in Sydney of course.
October 12, 201113 yr Dave I have an outstanding Cobalt cock who developed an Adult French Moult [if there is such a thing] anyway he has no flights or tail, yet he breeds very well and does not pass the condition onto his young. He is one of my best cock birds. The secret is to make sure he is in peak condition when I pair him up. Hope that gives you hope, cheers Clearwing
October 12, 201113 yr Cool! There's hope for Quiche yet RE AI, have you got the DVD that Mario Carpasso made? You can order the artificial insemination kit and DVD from him. It offers a very good explanation.
October 13, 201113 yr Author Today's update surprises galore and new pics to come on the weekend Pair 1 - Caesar and GreyGreen Hen - 3 chicks now - 2 red eyes - I was so wrong about colours it was unbelievable, but in a good way. There are 3 chicks, 2 with red eyes, we know that. We know the red eyes mean the INO gene, and that they are hens. What I didn't realise was that the hen was split blue. She was bred from a green cock and a grey green hen, and she is opaline, and we know that Caesar is a sky blue cock who is split opaline and split INO. The eldest is an opaline cock, that was not the shock, the shock is that he is either blue or grey. That is the shock. The youngest hen is a Lutino as the yellow feathers are coming through, but the eldest hen is an albino. This once more means that the hen is either split grey or blue. This means that for the hen to be split blue she would have to get it from her father, as she is a greygreen hen like her mother. I am thinking that her father is Violet Green, so hsi father may have been green but his mother have been visual violet. That would explain his deep green. I love genetics and the surprises of breeding. Pair 2 - Twitch and Albino Hen - 5 chicks now - I think twitch is split blue, opaline and cinnamon. Mum (Albino) could be masking blue or grey,opaline or cinnamon. I do not know. Oldest looks cinnamon sky blue whilst the next will be a normal sky blue.All 5 chicks have rings on. There are 4 blue based chicks in there and 1 green chick, the middle chick. I think they might all be cocks as I know Twitch is split opaline and none of the chicks are opaline. Of course, he has had non-opaline daughters before, so they might just be non-opaline daughters. A very busy nestbox though. Pair 3 - Son of Dumber (RIP) and daughter of Twitch - 1 chick with white down so we have a hen - she has been rung. Too early to tell the colour yet but I am thinking a grey like her Mum. I threw out all the other eggs. Pair 4 - Dumb and Light Green Spangle Hen - 3 chicks - too early to tell the colours. I do hope for some DF spangles in this nest. Pair 5 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to Green Hen - hen has dropped her tail and does not appear overly interested in the whole breeding cycle Pair 6 - Opaline Grey to a Light Green Cinnamon Hen - hen has begun to spend more and more time in the nestbox. Hoping for that first egg in a day or two. Might just be the beginnings of an eggy bum. Pair 7 - Grey Cock to an Opaline Grey Spangle Hen - 3 eggs so far Pair 8 - Cobalt Cinnamon Cock to a Sky Cinnamon Hen - No movement yet - might pluck them both on the weekend. Pair 9 - YF Opaline Sky Cock to a Light Green Spangle Hen - 1 chick going very well - a green opaline hen - cannot be a cock as Mum is not opaline - this will be a big chick I think. A definite cutie. Mum obviously wants to breed again as she has cleared out the nestbox but she is no whilst the little on is in there.St Jude - well done. Pair 10 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to a Green Hen - a lot of preening and the like Pair 11 - Sky blue cinnamon wing cock to greygreen hen - these two paired up in the aviary and were already mating. I gave them a nestbox straight away the hen went straight in there. 3 eggs layed Pair 12 - Green Cock to a Grey/Blue Opaline Dominant Pied Hen - 1 chick (DMC 003 12) - He is the most beautiful budgie. Sky Blue dommie pied cock. He just sits in your hand when you hold him. I have never wanted to hand raise/tame or even have an inside budgie, but when you hold him, you can easily change your mind. Pair 13 - Grey Cock to a GreyGreen Cinnamon Opaline Hen - 3 chicks - great mum - All 3 are opaline so all this tells me is that they might be cocks or hen and that Dad is split opaline. The eldest is a sky blue cinnamon wing, means both birds are split blue, second is also sky blue. The youngest is a grey. I think the oldest and youngest are hens and the middle one is a cock. Pair 14 - Captain Jack (Light Green Cinnamon Cock) to an Albino Hen - 6 eggs - not sure if any eggs are fertile - might be too early to tell. Pair 15 - Violet Opaline Cock to a Grey Hen - none of these eggs looked fertile and the hen saved me the trouble of cleaning them out. Garage Pair 16 - Quiche (GreyGreen Opaline Spangle Cock) to a DF White Spangle Hen - Quiche and this hen will return to the aviary on the weekend.
October 13, 201113 yr Hoping for DF's Dave ? They hatch with plum eyes ( just for a day or two ) so you can tell earlier if you have one in a nest.
October 13, 201113 yr Author Hoping for DF's Dave ? They hatch with plum eyes ( just for a day or two ) so you can tell earlier if you have one in a nest. I know, but I did not think to look for plum eyes, I was more about health, less about appearance. I didn't think of it at the time. Oops - made a mistake with a pair. I stated Pair 13 - Grey Cock to a GreyGreen Cinnamon Opaline Hen - 3 chicks - great mum - All 3 are opaline so all this tells me is that they might be cocks or hen and that Dad is split opaline. The eldest is a sky blue cinnamon wing, means both birds are split blue, second is also sky blue. The youngest is a grey. I think the oldest and youngest are hens and the middle one is a cock. The eldest is an opaline light green normal, the second eldest is a sky blue cinnamon and the youngest is a grey normal. Very colourful nestbox. Edited October 13, 201113 yr by Dave_McMinn
October 14, 201113 yr Oops - made a mistake with a pair. Just one mistake! You're doing well My journal is littered with typos and mistakes ... But I know what I mean - even if no one else does
October 14, 201113 yr Author Welcome to "Young budgie leave the nest before you are prepared to" Day. I have had to put three bird back in nestboxes as they were not ready. They had "escaped" the nestbox but should not have been out. Pair 1 - Caesar and GreyGreen Hen - 3 chicks now - 2 red eyes - I was so wrong about colours it was unbelievable, but in a good way. There are 3 chicks, 2 with red eyes, we know that. We know the red eyes mean the INO gene, and that they are hens. What I didn't realise was that the hen was split blue. She was bred from a green cock and a grey green hen, and she is opaline, and we know that Caesar is a sky blue cock who is split opaline and split INO. The eldest is an opaline cock, that was not the shock, the shock is that he is either blue or grey. That is the shock. The youngest hen is a Lutino as the yellow feathers are coming through, but the eldest hen is an albino. This once more means that the hen is either split grey or blue. This means that for the hen to be split blue she would have to get it from her father, as she is a greygreen hen like her mother. I am thinking that her father is Violet Green, so hsi father may have been green but his mother have been visual violet. That would explain his deep green. I love genetics and the surprises of breeding. Pair 2 - Twitch and Albino Hen - 5 chicks now - I think twitch is split blue, opaline and cinnamon. Mum (Albino) could be masking blue or grey,opaline or cinnamon. I do not know. Oldest looks cinnamon sky blue whilst the next will be a normal sky blue.All 5 chicks have rings on. There are 4 blue based chicks in there and 1 green chick, the middle chick. I think they might all be cocks as I know Twitch is split opaline and none of the chicks are opaline. Of course, he has had non-opaline daughters before, so they might just be non-opaline daughters. A very busy nestbox though. The second eldest and second youngest chicks jumped out of the nestbox. One looks to be a sky blue cinnamon whilst the other could well be a grey cinnamon. Hard to tell. Pair 3 - Son of Dumber (RIP) and daughter of Twitch - 1 chick with white down so we have a hen - she has been rung. Too early to tell the colour yet but I am thinking a grey like her Mum. Most aggessive Mum. I put my hand in there to check the chick and Mum went psycho - LOL. Protective. Pair 4 - Dumb and Light Green Spangle Hen - 3 chicks - too early to tell the colours. I do hope for some DF spangles in this nest. Pair 5 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to Green Hen - hen has dropped her tail and does not appear overly interested in the whole breeding cycle Pair 6 - Opaline Grey to a Light Green Cinnamon Hen - first egg layed and hen is already nesting on egg Pair 7 - Grey Cock to an Opaline Grey Spangle Hen - 3 big eggs so far Pair 8 - Cobalt Cinnamon Cock to a Sky Cinnamon Hen - No movement yet - might pluck them both on the weekend. Pair 9 - YF Opaline Sky Cock to a Light Green Spangle Hen - 1 chick going very well - a green opaline hen - cannot be a cock as Mum is not opaline - this will be a big chick I think. A definite cutie. Mum obviously wants to breed again as she has cleared out the nestbox but she is no whilst the little on is in there.St Jude - well done. St Jude has layed her first egg for round two. She is quite happy for her first born to stay there but I will set her up in her own facilities in the bottom of the cage tomorrow. Pair 10 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to a Green Hen - a lot of preening and the like Pair 11 - Sky blue cinnamon wing cock to greygreen hen - these two paired up in the aviary and were already mating. I gave them a nestbox straight away the hen went straight in there. 2 eggs layed Pair 12 - Green Cock to a Grey/Blue Opaline Dominant Pied Hen - 1 chick (DMC 003 12) - He is the most beautiful budgie. Sky Blue dommie pied cock. He just sits in your hand when you hold him. I have never wanted to hand raise/tame or even have an inside budgie, but when you hold him, you can easily change your mind. Pair 13 - Grey Cock to a GreyGreen Cinnamon Opaline Hen - 3 chicks - great mum - All 3 are opaline so all this tells me is that they might be cocks or hen and that Dad is split opaline. The eldest is an opaline light green, , second is an opaline sky blue cinnamon wing. The youngest is a grey. I think the oldest and youngest are hens and the middle one is a cock. It was the middle one - the sky blue cinnamon wing that did the big jump and I had to return to the nestbox. Even upon his return he tried to climb out again. He is a handful - Pair 14 - Captain Jack (Light Green Cinnamon Cock) to an Albino Hen - 6 eggs - not sure if any eggs are fertile - might be too early to tell. Pair 15 - Violet Opaline Cock to a Grey Hen - none of these eggs looked fertile and the hen saved me the trouble of cleaning them out. Garage Pair 16 - Quiche (GreyGreen Opaline Spangle Cock) to a DF White Spangle Hen - Quiche and this hen will return to the aviary on the weekend.
October 14, 201113 yr Hoping for DF's Dave ? They hatch with plum eyes ( just for a day or two ) so you can tell earlier if you have one in a nest. Well there you go, never knew that, have never bred one.
October 15, 201113 yr Author Pair 1 - Caesar and GreyGreen Hen - 3 chicks now - 2 red eyes - I was so wrong about colours it was unbelievable, but in a good way. There are 3 chicks, 2 with red eyes, we know that. We know the red eyes mean the INO gene, and that they are hens. What I didn't realise was that the hen was split blue. She was bred from a green cock and a grey green hen, and she is opaline, and we know that Caesar is a sky blue cock who is split opaline and split INO. The eldest is an opaline cock, that was not the shock, the shock is that he is either blue or grey. That is the shock. The youngest hen is a Lutino as the yellow feathers are coming through, but the eldest hen is an albino. This once more means that the hen is either split grey or blue. This means that for the hen to be split blue she would have to get it from her father, as she is a greygreen hen like her mother. I am thinking that her father is Violet Green, so his father may have been green but his mother may have been visual violet. That would explain his deep green. I love genetics and the surprises of breeding. Pair 2 - Twitch and Albino Hen - 5 chicks now - I think twitch is split blue, opaline and cinnamon. Mum (Albino) could be masking blue or grey,opaline or cinnamon. I do not know. Oldest looks sky blue whilst the next will be a normal sky blue. All 5 chicks have rings on. There are 4 blue based chicks in there and 1 green chick, the middle chick. I think they might all be cocks as I know Twitch is split opaline and none of the chicks are opaline. Of course, he has had non-opaline daughters before, so they might just be non-opaline daughters. A very busy nestbox though. Pair 3 - Son of Dumber (RIP) and daughter of Twitch - 1 chick with white down so we have a hen - she has been rung. Too early to tell the colour yet but I am thinking a grey like her Mum. Not sure if this little one is a spangle or not. I am eagerly awaiting to see how she colours up. Pair 4 - Dumb and Light Green Spangle Hen - 3 chicks - Youngest got rung today. Early guesses with colours - Eldest is a white double factor spangle, 2nd eldest is a green spangle and too early to tell on the youngest, but I am leaning towards sky blue spangle. Pair 5 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to Green Hen - hen has dropped her tail and does not appear overly interested in the whole breeding cycle Pair 6 - Opaline Grey to a Light Green Cinnamon Hen - first egg layed and hen is already nesting on egg Pair 7 - Grey Cock to an Opaline Grey Spangle Hen - 3 big eggs so far Pair 8 - Cobalt Cinnamon Cock to a Sky Cinnamon Hen - No movement yet - might pluck them both on the weekend. Pair 9 - YF Opaline Sky Cock to a Light Green Spangle Hen - 1 chick going very well - a green opaline hen - cannot be a cock as Mum is not opaline - this will be a big chick I think. A definite cutie. Mum obviously wants to breed again as she has cleared out the nestbox but she is no whilst the little on is in there.St Jude - well done. St Jude has layed her first egg for round two. She is quite happy for her first born to stay there but I set the chicks up with her own facilities in the bottom of the cage today. She is picking at seed and millet. I had to move her out of the nestbox as although Mum was happy for her to stay, every time I put seed in there Mum kicked it out, risking damaging the new egg, and any millet Mum ate. At least in her own little place Dad can come and feed her and she has seed and millet of her own. Pair 10 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to a Green Hen - a lot of preening and the like. I cannot blame the cock. As I was cleaning out cages I watched these two and he was doing all he could to mount her - Pair 11 - Sky blue cinnamon wing cock to greygreen hen - these two paired up in the aviary and were already mating. I gave them a nestbox straight away the hen went straight in there. 2 eggs layed. I keep trying to adjust the eggs so they are in the best position in the nestbox but everytime I check, Mum has moved them to a weird position. Best to leave them alone form now, mother knows best. Pair 12 - Green Cock to a Grey/Blue Opaline Dominant Pied Hen - 1 chick (DMC 003 12) - He is the most beautiful budgie. Sky Blue dommie pied cock. He just sits in your hand when you hold him. I have never wanted to hand raise/tame or even have an inside budgie, but when you hold him, you can easily change your mind. I was never a Dommie Pied fan and Kaz know this well, but a sky blue dommie pied has won my heart this breeding round. Pair 13 - Grey Cock to a GreyGreen Cinnamon Opaline Hen - 3 chicks - great mum - All 3 are opaline so all this tells me is that they might be cocks or hen and that Dad is split opaline. The eldest is an opaline light green, , second is an opaline sky blue cinnamon wing. The youngest is a grey. I think the oldest and youngest are hens and the middle one is a cock. It was the middle one - the sky blue cinnamon wing that did the big jump and I had to return to the nestbox. Even upon his return he tried to climb out again. He is a handful. They have their own little home set up if needed. Pair 14 - Captain Jack (Light Green Cinnamon Cock) to an Albino Hen - 6 eggs - not sure if any eggs are fertile - might be too early to tell. Pair 15 - Violet Opaline Cock to a Grey Hen - none of these eggs looked fertile and the hen saved me the trouble of cleaning them out. Garage Pair 16 - Quiche (GreyGreen Opaline Spangle Cock) to a DF White Spangle Hen - Quiche and this hen will return to the aviary on the weekend.
October 16, 201113 yr Author Todays update comes with photos - YAY!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: Pair 1 - Caesar and GreyGreen Hen - 3 chicks now - 2 red eyes - I was so wrong about colours it was unbelievable, but in a good way. There are 3 chicks, 2 with red eyes, we know that. We know the red eyes mean the INO gene, and that they are hens. What I didn't realise was that the hen was split blue. She was bred from a green cock and a grey green hen, and she is opaline, and we know that Caesar is a sky blue cock who is split opaline and split INO. The eldest is an opaline cock, that was not the shock, the shock is that he is either blue or grey. That is the shock. The youngest hen is a Lutino as the yellow feathers are coming through, but the eldest hen is an albino. This once more means that the hen is either split grey or blue. This means that for the hen to be split blue she would have to get it from her father, as she is a greygreen hen like her mother. I am thinking that her father is Violet Green, so his father may have been green but his mother may have been visual violet. That would explain his deep green. I love genetics and the surprises of breeding. Pair 2 - Twitch and Albino Hen - 5 chicks now - I think twitch is split blue, opaline and cinnamon. Mum (Albino) could be masking blue or grey,opaline or cinnamon. I do not know. Oldest looks sky blue whilst the next will be a normal sky blue. All 5 chicks have rings on. There are 4 blue based chicks in there and 1 green chick, the middle chick. I think they might all be cocks as I know Twitch is split opaline and none of the chicks are opaline. Of course, he has had non-opaline daughters before, so they might just be non-opaline daughters. A very busy nestbox though. I set up a little home for any chicks that left the nestbox but Twitch was checking it out, then fed Mrs Twitch Pair 3 - Son of Dumber (RIP) and daughter of Twitch - 1 chick with white down so we have a hen - she has been rung. Too early to tell the colour yet but I am thinking a grey like her Mum. Not sure if this little one is a spangle or not. I am eagerly awaiting to see how she colours up. Dad Pair 4 - Dumb and Light Green Spangle Hen - 3 chicks - Youngest got rung today. Early guesses with colours - Eldest is a white double factor spangle, 2nd eldest is a green spangle and too early to tell on the youngest, but I am leaning towards sky blue spangle. Little DF Spangle Pair 5 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to Green Hen - hen has dropped her tail and does not appear overly interested in the whole breeding cycle Pair 6 - Opaline Grey to a Light Green Cinnamon Hen - first egg layed and hen is already nesting on egg Pair 7 - Grey Cock to an Opaline Grey Spangle Hen - 4 big eggs so far Pair 8 - Cobalt Cinnamon Cock to a Sky Cinnamon Hen - No movement yet - might pluck them both on the weekend. Pair 9 - YF Opaline Sky Cock to a Light Green Spangle Hen - 1 chick going very well - a green opaline hen - cannot be a cock as Mum is not opaline - this will be a big chick I think. A definite cutie. Mum obviously wants to breed again as she has cleared out the nestbox but she is no whilst the little on is in there.St Jude - well done. St Jude has layed her first egg for round two. She is quite happy for her first born to stay there but I set the chicks up with her own facilities in the bottom of the cage today. She is picking at seed and millet. I had to move her out of the nestbox as although Mum was happy for her to stay, every time I put seed in there Mum kicked it out, risking damaging the new egg, and any millet Mum ate. At least in her own little place Dad can come and feed her and she has seed and millet of her own. Mum Pair 10 - GreyGreen Cinnamon Cock to a Green Hen - a lot of preening and the like. I cannot blame the cock. As I was cleaning out cages I watched these two and he was doing all he could to mount her - Pair 11 - Sky blue cinnamon wing cock to greygreen hen - these two paired up in the aviary and were already mating. I gave them a nestbox straight away the hen went straight in there. 2 eggs layed. I keep trying to adjust the eggs so they are in the best position in the nestbox but everytime I check, Mum has moved them to a weird position. Best to leave them alone form now, mother knows best. I have more info and images but I cannot post them until someone replies due to the number of images restrictions, so help a fella out here people. Comment
October 16, 201113 yr Author I can wait no longer - here is the 2nd half Pair 12 - Green Cock to a Grey/Blue Opaline Dominant Pied Hen - 1 chick (DMC 003 12) - He is the most beautiful budgie. Sky Blue dommie pied cock. He just sits in your hand when you hold him. I have never wanted to hand raise/tame or even have an inside budgie, but when you hold him, you can easily change your mind. I was never a Dommie Pied fan and Kaz know this well, but a sky blue dommie pied has won my heart this breeding round. Scratching Pair 13 - Grey Cock to a GreyGreen Cinnamon Opaline Hen - 3 chicks - great mum - All 3 are opaline so all this tells me is that they might be cocks or hen and that Dad is split opaline. The eldest is an opaline light green, , second is an opaline sky blue cinnamon wing. The youngest is a grey. I think the oldest and youngest are hens and the middle one is a cock. It was the middle one - the sky blue cinnamon wing that did the big jump and I had to return to the nestbox. Even upon his return he tried to climb out again. He is a handful. They have their own little home set up if needed. Pair 14 - Captain Jack (Light Green Cinnamon Cock) to an Albino Hen - have to check eggs, fertility issues Pair 15 - Violet Opaline Cock to a Grey Hen - mating so fertile eggs expected soon - hopefully Garage Pair 16 - Quiche (GreyGreen Opaline Spangle Cock) to a DF White Spangle Hen - Returned to the aviary For those people wondering Tess, one of my dogs, looks to be headed in the right direction She has another fit the other day, but the vet thinks it is due to too much insulin. Hopefully her pancreas is recovering and starting to produce insulin again. We almost halved her insulin dosage and all other results from tests look positive. Mac and Tess today Mac Tess Edited October 16, 201113 yr by Dave_McMinn
October 16, 201113 yr Oh Ho Here's one to watch! I do believe you have a winner! I'll be very interested to see how the others develop - their a bit too young at present to gauge. She has another fit the other day, but the vet thinks it is due to too much insulin. Hopefully her pancreas is recovering and starting to produce insulin again. We almost halved her insulin dosage and all other results from tests look positive. Mac and Tess today Mac Tess Gorgeous, gorgeous little doggies!
October 17, 201113 yr Author I thought I had lost a baby bird yesterday. Not lost as in it died, but lost as in it was missing. I had put the wire on the back of the boxes to allow more air in to make the nestboxes cooler, as shown in the pics below Anyway, I was checking the nestbox and one baby was missing. I couldn't see it in the cage, and I had this fear it had escaped. I was down on hands and knees looking under cages, looking around to see if it had fallen out somehow and run. Finally I looked at the cage again, reached in and moved the little "safety house" I had created, and it was behind the "safety house" All that searching and worrying for nothing - Everyone looked happy and healthy when I left to come to work.
October 17, 201113 yr Fantastic photos and some really gorgeous chicks Dave...........good to see Tess looking so happy and well too
October 17, 201113 yr You have some lovely chicks Dave , they should develop into some really nice birds, well done, Looks like things are picking up for you. The dogs are real little cuties by the way.
October 17, 201113 yr Author Thanks everyone for the recent comments. I am amazed how many blues there are. There are 17 chicks from Round 1 and 3 are grey, 4 are green, 2 DF white spangles, 1 albino, 1 lutino, and 6 blues. I will try to get more photos over the coming days. I will try to get some individual face photos like this one
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