Hi everyone

Here are some pictures of my new birds I get today. Today was the annual Ron Norman show & Brasea show , was a very exciting day! I won two 1'st and one 2nd. I bought one bird from the auction, and got another 3 birds off forum member Sunnie, (who sold some very nice birds in the auction!) stunning birds that she was VERY kind enough to practically give them away to me.I was looking for some big beefy birds to put into my stock, to get the size up as I am reasonably happy with my birds feature wise. I got some great advice from some very helpful members, and was bidding on a stunning HUGE albino hen, but she went for over $100, which i refused to spend on a bird! I got:

 

-- Light Green Normal cock bird, masking YF and split blue ($50 in the auction) who is S. Cripps and B. Hunt lines. Very happy with him. Blue ring I think.

-- Cinnamon Light Blue Hen, Fantastic mum! Green ring

-- YF Blue Cock Bird split TCB

-- TCB Sky Blue Cock bird - Stunning bird, with the loveliest head I have seen!

 

I have been very naughty, and these new birds are in with two hens. I am planning to put these three following pairs down in my first round, in about 6 weeks. Plus a split fallow pair, and maybe another YF Blue pair, and a ino/clearbody pair.

Here are my following pairs, I am hoping to really get some nice chicks out. These three birds are in my show aviary (birds for upcoming show's being prepped) but now that this is the last show I am in for a while, I emptied it out, and am going to hopefully let the birds pair into the RIGHT pairs, knowing them though, this will not happen!

 

Pair 1

Light Green Cock mask YF /Blue X Cinnamon Light Blue Hen. I love his width of head and directional feather.

 

Pair 2

YF Blue Cock /TCB X Cinnamon Opaline Sky Blue hen (No picture of them together sorry! These are horrid pictures by the way!)

 

Pair 3

Sky Blue TCB Cock X Easley Clearbody Opaline Grey-Green Hen. The cock is a very nice bird, I am thinking I will try the cock over the two sisters, and an albino hen I have. The two sisters (the bird in this pair winning first between her and her sister today) are very much the same, the other bird has a clearer blow and a more round head, but this hen sit's nicer on the perch and is neater. She has a very nice outline, and sits quietly. She also must have violet in her, dad was a grey-green and mum was a DF violet . I will be interested to see how the chicks come out, as far as the texas clearbody and the easley clearbody mix

Hey Squeak,

 

Massive fan of the 2 clearbodys you have. Don't have a Clearbody myself and wanting to add one to the collection after these great pics.

 

 

Just an aside, I didn't think we had Easley Clearbodies in Oz, just the Texas (TCB) version? Thought the Easleys were stuck in England.

 

The two strains don't mix do they ?

 

Nice looking birds regardless. Good luck.

 

 

Stew

Hey Squeak,

 

Massive fan of the 2 clearbodys you have. Don't have a Clearbody myself and wanting to add one to the collection after these great pics.

 

 

Just an aside, I didn't think we had Easley Clearbodies in Oz, just the Texas (TCB) version? Thought the Easleys were stuck in England.

 

The two strains don't mix do they ?

 

Nice looking birds regardless. Good luck.

 

 

Stew

 

I have known of the easley for a while now, but I never suspected I would have them, as I, like you, assumed we didn't have them in Oz. However after a discussion today about the clearbody hen's I had in the show today, a breeder assured me both hens were from easley birds. Their father was from this breeder, and the father of them was an Easley. The breeder is in the national's with his clearbodies (the father came from the line, so the line is easley lines). He bought 2 Easley hens a few years ago, from an interstate breeder, and all of his clearbodies go back to these hens.

 

I am still trying to distinguish the difference, but he mentioned how the bird's marking are quite darker then a TCB, and the body is alot easier to see the clearness through it. In the below picture I added, the brother to these two hens is on the top. Their mother is below. You can see the difference in suffusion, the mum being a good bird, but the son being a better bird. I am hoping to visit the breeder in a few weeks, and will certainly be looking at getting some easley's to put back to these siblings. The violet cock is a splay leg chick though, but a nice bird. You can see his uplift and blow, which means that his sister is carrying it I am hoping. So the pair I originally posted may throw some round headed chicks, even though they are both flatter. I am hoping the violet cok will breed still. His legs aren't that bad.

 

Most of what you posted makes no sense to me as a pet budgie owner only , but congratulations anyway!!! And good luck with your pairings.

 

 

Squeak,

 

Got stacks of questions for you.

 

1. What happens when you mix the two types (other than confusion in identifying the chicks' variety) ? Any benefit ? Is it recommended ? (I assume its kinda like mixing a Dutch Pied and a Aust Pied. Result is Pied, but not sure which).

 

2. The Easley is dominant, rather than sex linked ? Is the initial hen a DF ?

 

3. Is the Easley dominant to Ino as with the TCB, even though its not sex linked ? (Read that the Ino and Clearbody gene are closely linked, but that was more around the TCB version.)

 

4. I assume the Easley and TCB are grouped together in a Class for showing ?

 

5. Are Easleys that popular ? Thought TCB's were the vast majority of the clearbody population.

 

Look forward to hearing more.....

Squeak,

 

Got stacks of questions for you.

 

1. What happens when you mix the two types (other than confusion in identifying the chicks' variety) ? Any benefit ? Is it recommended ? (I assume its kinda like mixing a Dutch Pied and a Aust Pied. Result is Pied, but not sure which).

 

2. The Easley is dominant, rather than sex linked ? Is the initial hen a DF ?

 

3. Is the Easley dominant to Ino as with the TCB, even though its not sex linked ? (Read that the Ino and Clearbody gene are closely linked, but that was more around the TCB version.)

 

4. I assume the Easley and TCB are grouped together in a Class for showing ?

 

5. Are Easleys that popular ? Thought TCB's were the vast majority of the clearbody population.

 

Look forward to hearing more.....

 

1. The breeder who I got the bird's from is just getting into TCB now, this is his first year. I would assume he will get from an TCB cock bird X a ECB hen, would be

Any cock birds being ECB or normals, split TCB

equal amount of TCB's and ECB

 

2. As far as I can see from the internet, it is a dominant mutation. However, I am not sure about that, I have not asked the breeder much.

 

3. Not Sure

 

4. Yes.

 

5. Still not sure, I think they are more common then first thought, but I don't think as common as TCB's.

 

I tried to answer you as best as I can, and to what little knowledge I have. I only learned about this the other day, so much of it is information I have read up on, and guessing.

Squeak those Clearbodies are TCB's. There are no Easley CB's in Australia. Easley's have black markings including flights an the cheek patch is a silver grey on all colours, tails are black. Your bird looks to me like it have violet cheek patch which if that is go is not a Grey Green. Obviously the breeder you got them from don't know what he/she is talking about. You even say the breeder is just getting into them!

 

To answer other questions raised. Easley CB's are dominant and I do not know of any combinations being bred in the USA where these birds orignated. I don't think Tom Easley would have bred them with the TCB's as he has never said so in his writings.

 

As the Easley CB does not exist in Australia there is no class for it. In the USA it is in their standard of perfection but I could not tell you at this time if they have a seperate class.

 

The Easly is not dominant to Ino like the TCB because it is not an allele like the TCB.

 

Squeak your Light Green you bought cannot be Masking YF and split for Blue at the same time. It is either a Green/Blue or a Green/Yellowface.

Squeak those Clearbodies are TCB's. There are no Easley CB's in Australia. Easley's have black markings including flights an the cheek patch is a silver grey on all colours, tails are black. Your bird looks to me like it have violet cheek patch which if that is go is not a Grey Green. Obviously the breeder you got them from don't know what he/she is talking about. You even say the breeder is just getting into them!

 

To answer other questions raised. Easley CB's are dominant and I do not know of any combinations being bred in the USA where these birds orignated. I don't think Tom Easley would have bred them with the TCB's as he has never said so in his writings.

 

As the Easley CB does not exist in Australia there is no class for it. In the USA it is in their standard of perfection but I could not tell you at this time if they have a seperate class.

 

The Easly is not dominant to Ino like the TCB because it is not an allele like the TCB.

 

Squeak your Light Green you bought cannot be Masking YF and split for Blue at the same time. It is either a Green/Blue or a Green/Yellowface.

 

 

all of the above and

if your green is yf then all chicks that are blue or grey from him will be yf but only some of the green chicks will get the green passed on

is that right rip or am i wrong

 

oh and if hes not split blue well have fun with that

 

and your skyblue clearbody cock he is beautiful great length in mask and nice length

also dont put cinnamon into your clearbodys hun you will kill your line before it starts use your best normal hen with deepest markings or a clearbody blue based or albino masking grey not masking spangle or a lute not masking spangle and masking dark green or a dark green or olive for any green clearbodys but never ever cinnamon

Edited June 20, 201113 yr by GenericBlue