October 1, 201113 yr Me to Dave but he is not looking good. I took a photo of him before in the hospital cage just in case. Just a record just in case he doesn't make it. Actually that's him in the above photos before he got sick, photo 1 and photo 6. I don't know if I caused it or not but I put them all on the floor because the hen wanted to start laying again and he was fine in the nest and a few days later all fluffed up. Would have to be a violet dom pied too. His brother a sky violet pied looks very nice too but his old sister violet pied hen looks **** and there is a younger violet pied but can't tell what it will be like yet. I had to put another sibling down and it was violet pied also because a hip problem and it couldn't move, walk or anything. Good nest though, the dad is a sky violet spangle and mum a pied, I thought she was grey green but she has violet throat spot so she must be an olive or something. Anyway they had 5 chicks and 4 were violet, couldn't ask for anything better. splat did you think that it could just got chilled that causes birds to go light in a night it looks like to us but in fact as they just dont eat almost as soon as they feel sick or unwell they fluff up and as they haven eaten due to being cold and trying to stay warm they by the time we find them have already spent almost two days with out food or water causing black poo due to not eating and dehydration when i get a sick bird i always put it on raspberry cordial and a squeeze of lemon first for 24 hours before i asses it more and keep it warm of course i actually give it one point of a mil of this mix as soon as i bring it in if its alive the next day i then assess its poo again and go from their reason i do this is a bird thats dehydrated will die if given antibiotics with out being stabilized first you have to hydrate them first then proceed with antibiotics hope the little guy gets better id consider he may have a chill if he was on floor i always put my chicks back in nest or add a nest box for them to stay warm
October 2, 201113 yr Author That is what I have been thinking Gb, I did put an in closed box I made on the floor and the chicks were in there. When I noticed him fluffed up he had not lost any weight and like I said very smelly droppings. Before I took him out of the breeding cage his dad did feed him but just a bit. He is not looking good today lost more weight but he is not fluffed up. Gb I have been feeding him with budgie rearing food mixed with his meds, sulfa AVS, poly aid and NV powder , the last 2 to give him energy. I put him back with his dad this morning but he wouldn't feed him. I know I am probably doing it all wrong and I have to admit I HATE CROP FEEDING. anyway I am trying.
October 2, 201113 yr Author Sad to say that my little violet pied passed away yesterday at between 4pm -4.30pm. I checked on him at 4 and he looked fine, he wasn't fluffed up like the day before but I went out at 4.30 and he had passed away. I was really hoping he would make it. here is are a couple of photos of him the day before in the hospital cage.
October 3, 201113 yr breeding is not all beer and skittles is it? Sorry that you lost the little one Splat. maybe it was not meant to be
October 3, 201113 yr sad you lost him mate i always bring my sick-lings into the house chicks or adult and keep as warm as i can however the good note on this is if he was carrying something he can not at a latter date infect others due to having weak immunity to things sad as it is daves right things happen for reason weather we like it or not weather its good or not sorry hun about your loss
October 3, 201113 yr I'm sorry he didn't make it Splat. I've just lost a little one too and it is so sad.
October 3, 201113 yr Author Thanks Dave, Gb and Renee. I new he would die, because he didn't pick up straight away. Gb the hospital cage is sitting in the laundry which is part of the house. I check and can see him every time I walk out the door but yesterday i checked him and then went up the street when I came back he had dropped off the perch, dead. There is another violet pied cock younger but I don't think he is as good, time will tell. Well today I have being trying to mouse proof my old bird room so I can use the aviary and I have been using some of that rotten foam stuff, didn't work because it is all over me , clothes hands everywhere and I can't get it off. I should of worn gloves but last time I used it it was fine but this bottle was ****. It get getting clogged up. Boy are my hands sore. Anyway report of breeding room. I have 10 little chicks I rang 2 yesterday. There is 5 in the dilute nest 3 are dilute, 1 belongs to my white boy the DF white spangle and one belongs to a light green pied and sky blue cinn hen. I fostered the 2nd eldest. In the white df spangles nest he with a daughter a sky spangle they are some fertile eggs. My dark green pied cock x light green cinnamon hen have 2 chicks so far, I think 1 more egg to hatch and 1 egg from albino cock x grey hen to hatch. In the lutino nest there is are mostly fostered. the have 3 that belong to light green cock (Ron Blizzard) that I got from the auction with lovely long mask x grey green hen. I have the rest laying with some fertility here and there. this light green spangle is from my nice light green spangle in my siggy the one one the right, he is full brother to the white df spangle. There were only 2 that survived the light green spangle and sky spangle This is the sky spangle but the photo was taken early last week, he is now older and looks much better. Edited October 3, 201113 yr by splat
October 3, 201113 yr Author Thank you Kaz. The poor little thing. Hey my pictures aren't pasting do you know why.
October 3, 201113 yr Thank you Kaz. The poor little thing. Hey my pictures aren't pasting do you know why. NO...check your linking process
October 3, 201113 yr Author They have turned up now, I mean my photos, very weird. I found my best bird in my whole aviary looking sick, my white DF spangle, my grand champion bird. He is or was until before down with his daughter. when I was out there earlier I noticed he couldn't jump on to the perch and I thought what, that's strange so I caught him and he has lost a lot of weight and his keel bone is very sharp. Well you can image how I felt, almost in tears. Anyway I took him out of the breeding box and put him in a cage on his own. I haven't put him in the hospital cage yet because I think the problem is... I think he might be feeding the and not saving food for himself. Anyway I gave him some spark for energy and some millet. I went and checked him before and his crop was full so I will see what he is like tomorrow, if no better hospital cage. The violet was the same a couple of weeks ago and I put him on his own and the next day couldn't feel his keel bone, he picked up straight away. Then hen he was with has a couple fertile eggs ,, so I hope she stays sitting, I only have 2 chicks form him this year.
October 3, 201113 yr i really hope you can work out whats happening their splat its hard seeing a friend having issues and not being able to help out at all im here if you want to talk though i know talking helps heaps
October 3, 201113 yr Author Thanks Gb that will be good. I just hope he will be okay because he is the main bird of my stud. I have that grey spangle from him but then I am not a hundred percent sure it is his but I am 99 percent sure. Remember I told you one hatched the other day and died but then the other one hatched 2 days later and doing fine. This little chick is full sibling to the grey spangle, so I will no for sure when this one gets older, that's if it doesn't die too. I am pretty sure he was feeding the hen to much, just hope so. Tomorrow I am going to empty most of my breeding cages because I am sick to death of this breeding season. But after saying that I do have some really nice babies coming on.
October 3, 201113 yr Author Update... Went out this morning to check on my white boy and he is much more lively now, I don't think is weight has changed any but he is jumping on the perch now so that is a better sign, it actually looks like he has hurt his wing, another bird that probably can't fly anymore. But I think he will be okay. He is hanging one wing more than the other and when he flies to the next perch the wing looks like it is hanging a bit. Anyway 3 new chicks today but I found a 2 day old chick dead, a pale pink colour with full crop, it's belly looked a tiny bit yellow. so now chick count is 12 I think. Still going to separate pairs and put them in the aviaries, but still working on the partly inside one (mouse proofing). That is for the babies. The yellow Df spangle, the white boys dad looks a bit down today too. And it has been really annoying because both these cocks have filled eggs and I have lost all the chicks from the yellow boy and only have maybe 2 chicks form the white boy. both birds are getting on too, yellow boy 07 and white 08. Last year I lost all the yellow boys chicks too except two, the hen smashed his eggs and one hen squashed his chicks. Really annoying 2 years in a row with bad breeding results. I feel I will never get back on the show bench to the stage of been competitive in my section. This hobby is very hard.
October 7, 201113 yr Author Time for an Update.... Df yellow cock is doing okay now but my white boy is struggling he is not well at all very sad. I am staring to wind down my breeding. In cage 1... where white df was , the hen a sky spangle is sitting on 4 fertile eggs but she is pooping all over them, so that is disappointing they probably won't hatch. cage 2... Sky spangle x sky spangle .. about to put them out I think. cage 3... white df sp (son of teh white boy x grey cin spangle .. sitting on a couple of fertile eggs. cage 4...grey opaline x cobalt opaline 1 egg. The hen has a habit of sitting tight. cage 5... empty cage 6 ... Dilute x Dilute they have 5 chicks 2 aren't theirs ... 1 belongs to my white boy and grey opaline hen. and 1 belongs to light green dom x sky cin hen. cage 7... empty Cage 8... Cobalt x violet opaline still waiting, cock is young. Cage 9... Dark green dom pied x light green cinn... they have 3 chicks plus she has 4 fertile eggs from sky blue spangle (brother of white boy) x light green cin opaline, I don't think they will hatch. cage 10... Violet spangle x grey opaline only one egg. cage 11.. sky violet spangle x dk green dom pied. sitting on fertile eggs. cage 12... fosters raising 3 chicks from light green cock x grey green hen. cage 13... Yellow face cobalt x grey opaline .. sitting a fertile eggs cage 14.. violet x sky about to put them out cage 15... empty cage 16... violet green x dark green cinn being smashing eggs 1 new egg. cage 17... grey green x yellow df spangle.. first egg yesterday cage 18... gery spangle x yellow spangle .. 5 eggs I think clear. cage 19... violet green x sky violet spangle sitting on fertile eggs. cage 20... light green spangle x sky cin opaline. about to put them out cage 21... fostering 3 older chicks cage 22... empty cage 23... can't remember cage 24... cobalt x grey op spangel sitting on eggs but looking clear. cage 25... empty cage 26...can't remember cage 27 empty This hen is the mother of my sky baby, she looks a bit messy because she is in the breeding box This is dad he is in the breeding box too and baby, I only got the one chick because the rest died. She has been down with the violet her dad but nothing has happened. This pair. both in breeding box so look scruffy. dad .. this cock and the one above are full brothers to my white boy and the hens are full sisters, daughters of the violet. mum and babies I am really happy with these babies.
October 7, 201113 yr Thanks Renee, wish I could get more but I am sick of it now. Look I have just flicked backwards to the beginning of this thread and you started at the beginning of June so you have been going for 5 months now. That is plenty for 2 rounds and it is starting to warm up now so yes indeed, time to wind up I would have thought. Look we all know what happens when summer bites, the bugs and lice etc become a real nuisance and not everybody's set up is suited to the warmer months. Just take it on the chin as one to forget, count your blessings in the beautiful chickies you have bred and move on and look forward to nest year. Well, that's what I would do.
October 7, 201113 yr Author I am not interested in breeding over the hots months plus I want to finish my bird room, lino, veranda etc. Make it more user friendly.
October 15, 201113 yr Author This is one of my latest chicks, a grey cinn op hen, I actually don't know her parents but I am guessing her parents are Geoff's birds because the hen is cobalt opaline and the cock a grey cinnamon. The hen sits tight and i lost the first round but I managed to transfer some eggs and I think this is the only one that made it. Nice handy hen though.
October 15, 201113 yr Author Thanks Kaz but there are only a few good ones, but yes I am happy , better results in the quality than the last 2 years, I have to wonder what would of been if I didn't loose all those chicks because there were about 15 from the yellow df sp, father of out white boys and there were about 10 to the white boy and they were to father daughter, grandfather daughter ect. And the sky babies dad had 6 fertile eggs to his niece and they all died too. But I know you know how it feels.
October 17, 201113 yr Author Update on my breeding. Today I empty out more breeding cages, still have a few more to go. But I have these nest going... Nest one is white df spangle / sky spangle (father/daughter) pairing. The hen is on her own because the white boy has taken sick. Anyway they had 5 fertile eggs and so far only one hatched, and ino egg was in there too and it hatch. the rest of the eggs have poop all over them a dirty hen anyway I don't think they will hatch, so very disappointing because the white boy (my grand champion) has gone light but I think he is improving. I have him on a cocktail of meds. nest 2.. sky spangle / sky spangle.. waiting on eggs , thinking of taking them out. nest 6 .. dilute/ dilute and there are at least 4 dilutes nest.. cobalt / violet opaline.. cousins. 2 egs. nest 9.. Dom Pied / light green cinn... there are 3 chicks in there, one is light green pied and maybe another pied and I think one is a split ino (fostered). Nest 11.. Sky Violet spangle/ dark green Dom pied.. so far 2 little chicks. nest 12.. 3 light greens I think (fostered) parents.. light green (Ron Blizzard cock) and grey green cin hen. nest 14.. Sky violet yellow face / grey hen. 2nd cousin/ 1st cousin pairing... they have 1 little chicks so far more eggs to hatch. nest 15 .. Violet / sky..(father / daughter) relations. 2 eggs so far. Nest 20.. grey green spangle/ yellow df spangle. nephew/ Auntie mating. filled 3 eggs but fostered. nest 21 .. Violet green / sky violet spangle.. 2 little chicks but 1 hatched today and died, more eggs to hatch Now some pics , sorry they are poor quality Dark green, there were 7 dark greens and 1 violet in the same nest, most of them hens more later
October 21, 201113 yr ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh violet green omg splat i so so so so so want one beautiful birds hun your doing fantastic ps can i have permition to draw/paint the picture with the chick blowing and sky hen in background please ???
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