How many Breeder Cabinets do you have on the go?

 

Yellow belly in hatchlings... isn't that Chlamydia in the parents?

 

I don't know Renee, I am guessing it is from the seed,

 

Rob Marshall says is an infection of the yolk sac and that Strep infection is the most common bacteria associated with budgies.

Any suggestions.

 

I'd close up the nest box and give the affected parents Doxy for 2 weeks.

 

3 years ago I did have Yellow Belly but since then no more after I routinely gave all birds 4-6 weeks treatment in the summer and then another 2 weeks prior to breeding.

 

I keep mine in the fridge but it is worth checking how old it is and whether the Doxy has expired.

How many Breeder Cabinets do you have on the go?

 

Yellow belly in hatchlings... isn't that Chlamydia in the parents?

 

I don't know Renee, I am guessing it is from the seed,

 

Rob Marshall says is an infection of the yolk sac and that Strep infection is the most common bacteria associated with budgies.

Any suggestions.

 

I'd close up the nest box and give the affected parents Doxy for 2 weeks.

 

3 years ago I did have Yellow Belly but since then no more after I routinely gave all birds 4-6 weeks treatment in the summer and then another 2 weeks prior to breeding.

 

I keep mine in the fridge but it is worth checking how old it is and whether the Doxy has expired.

I gave mine doxy before I put them down, but I didn't know the seed was bad plus that nest is raising other babies because there were foster eggs in there too. They has 4 chicks in there all doing well.

 

My doxy is only 12 months old

Edited September 1, 201113 yr by splat

You got some nice broad headed babies amongst that lot Splat

Thank you Kaz I just hope some turn out nice. I have one nest that only hatched 2 out of 4 fertile eggs but they are my bets pair, the cock is the brother to your bird he is a light green spangle in the siggy on the right and the hen is a sky cinnamon opaline, (Geoff reckons the best hen I have here) daughter to the violet.. so fingers crossed.

Part me wants to close down the breeding for the year and treat all birds off the birdroom but the other part wants to try and get a few birds for the shield. TORN.

Chlamydia is not the cause of yellow belly in chicks. DIS yes. Poor fertility and hatchability - prime identifiers of Psittachosis.

 

Yellow belly - ecoli, staph or strep infection. Attained through yolk sac. Lincospectin treatment seems to be getting good reviews for treating this. Dunno myself though.

Chlamydia is not the cause of yellow belly in chicks. DIS yes. Poor fertility and hatchability - prime identifiers of Psittachosis.

 

Yellow belly - ecoli, staph or strep infection. Attained through yolk sac. Lincospectin treatment seems to be getting good reviews for treating this. Dunno myself though.

 

Cool, thanks for clearing up that misconception.

 

SORRY Splat!!!

Apple cider vinegar is a good natural treatment for E Coli and staph. Have used it with great effect on people and birds.

Thanks Dan , I have been using it but probably not enough, I use the one from the health food shop with the mother in it.

Thanks Dan , I have been using it but probably not enough, I use the one from the health food shop with the mother in it.

 

Hey Splat, another product I use for the same thing is Marshall's Megamix, it's marketed as an organic acid and the ingredients are Citric acid 1g/L. Although, thinking about it, probably the Apple Cider Vinegar is cheaper ...

Edited September 3, 201113 yr by renee

Time for another update.

 

Things haven't been going to well, at least the majority of deaths have ceased with the occasional one.

 

Lets see

Cage one I am waiting on them laying. white DF spangle x grey op hen

 

cage 2 light green split clearbody x light green op hen, waiting on eggs.

 

cage 3. White Df spangle cock x grey cinn op Spangle hen they have....

cobalt cinnamon op spangle ,, very pretty

and 2 white DF spangle. all lovely and healthy and boys of white fluff.

There is a pied in this nest from nest 11.

 

Cage 4. Grey green op spangle x light green spangle hen... waiting on eggs.

 

cage 5. Violet x grey hen they have 5 chicks.... this mating is father/daughter mating from out cross last year.

grey cock very nice.. violet cock nice big head but very small body actually very wierd.. grey cin opaline hen ...

grey cin and the last chick not sure yet what colour.

the grey cock actually just looking at this photo and I think this chick is a mauve.

 

Cage 6.. Dilute x Dilute.... 2 eggs

 

Cage 7.. White Df Spangle x Yellow Df Sp.. 2 small chick and still hatching they had 3 but the oldest died at 3 days.

 

Cage 8.. Yellow Df Spangle x Cobalt Sp. waiting on eggs.

 

Cage 9.. Dk green Pied x Lt green cin hen.. they had 2 chicks one died.The surviving chick is a light green cinn pied.. she is quite nice.

 

Cage 10.. Light green x light green hen..They had 4 fertile eggs, 2 hatched rest Dead in Shell. one chick dies at 6 days went stiff in the back and died which is happening a bit.

 

Cage 11.. Sky violet op Spangle x Grey green op pied... They had 6 chicks, 4 pieds, the youngest I can't tell yet and I have seem to have lost one somewhere. and one I put down today stuffed hip and couldn't even sit up.

 

Cage 12.. Lutino x Albino.. waiting on eggs..

 

Cage 13...Albino x grey hen..waiting on eggs.

 

Cage 14.. This is the nest I had high hopes fore but one egg hatched the other day and the chick was dead 2 hours later.(young hen) looks like she squashed it. Took the eggs off her but non have hatched yet.

 

Cage 15.. Empty

 

Cage 16.. Violet green x sky blue spangle .. 2 eggs

 

Cage 17.. pair of clearbodies.. 6 eggs look clear.

 

Cage 18.. Empty

 

Cage 19.. Empty

 

Cage 20.. Light green Spangle x Sky blue cinnamon op.. They have 2 chicks, the other 2 eggs.

 

Cage 21.. Light green pied x Sky cinn.. waiting on eggs.

 

Cage 22.. Light green x light green cin op pied.. they have several fertile eggs due to hatch any day.

 

Cage 23.. Sky blue op spangle x sky.. they have 1 chick and a couple of fertile eggs.

 

Cage 24..

 

Cage 25.. fostering chicks from 26.

 

Cage 26.. Violet green x Dark green. 15 fertile eggs.about 8 have hatched I think. I died the other day from that stiff back thing and one died today from the same thing. and the oldest which looks promising and he is 3 weeks old. well I noticed today that his hip is out gee I am pieved. I just don't know what is happening here. Driving me nuts.

 

Nest 27 .. Grey x violet. this is the yellow belly nest. There is one chick maybe 2 .

 

nest 28.. Light green x grey green hen, waiting on eggs.

 

As you can see I am having some problems, some DIS, some stiff backs which is puzzling, it has to be some infection, a couple splayed legs and a couple with the hips out which I have never seen before. It's all driving me nuts. Oh and 2 mops.

Nice progress, still sad about the deaths.

I am in Love !!!!

LOL she is nice isn't she Kaz, should of seen her brother from the last nest, I think he would of been a cracker, boy he looked good. He was a light green pied. But he had the splayed leg I asked you about and I fixed it and then his hip went out, the hen just sits to tight, I had him fostered. anyway I had to put him down at 5 weeks because he couldn't even move. Sad,

This little girl and the mauve hatched on the same day, I think it is because she has more feather but she is behind him in progress, she still has some down showing. I guess they are only 4 weeks and 1 day old now.

 

But I am happy because both rounds only one chick survived and both were pieds.

okay Time for an update.

 

Things have been progressing slowly here.

I have had a few DIS which I have found annoying.

I have lost a few chicks with that strange flat back and then they go splayed leg. A few yellow belly deaths

But we have worked out what it was. The stupid hens are sitting to tight and flatting the chicks, i even put large eggs

in the nest but didn't work. I took the last 2 from one nest and put them in another nest and they have come good.

Any way over all I have bred some nice little chicks so far.

Pictures later.

This morning I found a 4 week old chick on the floor dead, I have no idea why, I noticed yesterday that he was jumping out of the nest a few times but he is all feathered up, you wouldn't think he would die from the cold. He looked perfect just dead. So I need to keep a close eye on them now just in case something sinister is going on.

 

I am very happy with my spangle pied nest, they had 6 chicks all pieds, No spangles and no spangle pieds, well the

youngest is a bit young to tell yet. But the other 4 are dom pieds, one died. So far I have 1 violet pied, I think 2 cobalt pieds and just waiting on the youngest to see what colour. The chicks are starting to look promising.

The parents are sky violet spangle and dark green dom pied hen.

 

Another nest I have 2 white df spangles and a cobalt opaline spangle, the cobalt op spangle is looking really promising

The parents are white Df spangle cock x grey opaline cinnamon spangle hen.

 

Another nest I have a heap of chicks scattered every where.

The parents are violet green cock x dark green hen.

I have that I can tell 3 dk greens or olives the tails look a bit blue, one violet 3 more are green but what I don't know yet and 4 more are to young to tell.

 

Another nest I have a violet and maybe a grey.

parents are grey cock x violet hen, this is the nest I lost most of them to yellow belly.

 

Another nest I have a green spangle and I think a grey spangle

parents are light green spangle cock and sky cinn opaline hen

 

Try and do photos later.

The cinnamon looks a ripper.

Yes she is nice Dan really happy with her.

I thought I would give an update to where I am

Things have been going much better of late, after talking to Gb and she was talking about loosing chicks

too and then I checked in the Rob Marshall book. I does the breeding birds on 3 days of turbosole.

I have been complaining about the chicks with stiff backs and out stretched leg which is a sign of giardia which is a form of canker and does happen to break out in the breeding room.

The last 2 chicks that died on the same day were about 10 days old with full crops and looked healthy as but just dead this was before I dosed them.

Happy to say I have not lost a chick since.

I have 3 news chicks in 2 different nest at the moment and they look healthy as.

To date I have about 40 live chicks that have survived my ordeal. But in these 40 chick there are some really nice birds,

so I am very happy with the results.

In my pied nest I have 3 violet pieds and 1 sky violet pied which I am very happy with considering dad is a sky violet opaline spangle and and mum a violet green pied. Not one chick turned out spangle pied.

 

this is a pied with foster chicks in the nest

 

i got a couple of nice chicks from the violet cocks nest,

violets nest with other chicks in there too

 

Heaps of nice dark green chicks from the violet greens nest.

 

I have pieds in 4 different nest

 

 

 

 

so what is the secret to avoiding chick deaths that you are now utiising?

Dave a lost a lot of chicks with a stiff backs and out stretched legs, and I was chatting to Gb and she was saying she had they same problem and and when she said that they were gasping for air, I thought boy a couple of mine looked like they were doing that but I thought they were just twirping or what ever. Anyway GB said she treated her whole breeding stock on 3 days of turbosole.

So I looked up in Rob Marshall's medicine book and yes for sure the stiff back and out stretched leg is a sign of canker so I treated the birds like GB and every thing has being good since, I treated all nest because I had transferred chicks everywhere.

After the breeding has finished I will do the whole flock with Doxy and turbosole. because I never want to go through this again.

Update.......5 healthy little chicks now.

okay, cool. I need to check out that book more. It is sitting upstairs.

Sounds promising now Splat, another case of airing problems on here !!

Someone is bound to have had the same prob. and can shed some light on things. Every little clue helps.

I am still having problems, I now have a really nice violet dom pied , 5 weeks very sick in hospital cage , I am feeidng him and giving him meds, he looked much better this morning but looking worse now. He has large very smelly droppings. And is loosing weight but he is has only lost weight since i took him away form dad.

I have heaps more to report but later.

hope he recovers Splat

Me to Dave but he is not looking good. I took a photo of him before in the hospital cage just in case. Just a record just in case he doesn't make it.

Actually that's him in the above photos before he got sick, photo 1 and photo 6. I don't know if I caused it or not but I put them all on the floor because the hen wanted to start laying again and he was fine in the nest and a few days later all fluffed up.

 

Would have to be a violet dom pied too. His brother a sky violet pied looks very nice too but his old sister violet pied hen looks **** and there is a younger violet pied but can't tell what it will be like yet. I had to put another sibling down and it was violet pied also because a hip problem and it couldn't move, walk or anything.

Good nest though, the dad is a sky violet spangle and mum a pied, I thought she was grey green but she has violet throat spot so she must be an olive or something. Anyway they had 5 chicks and 4 were violet, couldn't ask for anything better.

Edited October 1, 201113 yr by splat

That sucks.

 

What is your diagnosis and what are you treating him with?