Posted May 3, 201114 yr what colors are they?? i believe my cock is a spangle grey green but I'm not sure about the female hopefully it all goes well once i set em up for breeding so i can post pictures of the process its my first pair of show birds Ive ever owned, I'm very happy about the pair i bought what do you think about my selection?
May 3, 201114 yr Your hen looks like a Light Green Opaline Spangle - similar to my cock Santa. I love that bright green she has! I can't really tell you anything on the show standards side of things as I really have no idea, but I think they are quite good, especially if you're just starting out!
May 3, 201114 yr As the others have said...... Light Green Opaline Spangle hen Grey-green spangle cock the hen has all claws forward on her left foot too. Either an injury or an inherited fault. School of thought on these things is its inherited. Both nice looking birds. If the cock is carrying opaline you will end up with opaline chicks and spangle to spangle will give you a 25% chance of double factor spangle babies too. Give them time to settle in
May 3, 201114 yr Hi, nice birds to start out with, like the others said, light opaline spangle hen and grey green spangle cock. The hen in my view looks better then the cock, but both are good. The hen looks to have more directional feather than the cock but needs much more. her mask is longer, the cocks is shorter, so the hen should fix that. The hen is flecked which is a fault but the cock looks clean so that is good. The hen has spots and the cock doesn't. Like Kaz said the hen has all toes on front of perch but could be a lazy thing going on also. You should breed some handy babies from these two. You do have a chance of getting Df spangles from the mating. Expectations are 25% Double Factor spangles 50% spangles 25% Normals And seems the hen is opaline and the cock could be split for opaline and cinnamon also. You could get opalines and cinnamons in spangles and normals.
May 3, 201114 yr HI, I'm not a show breeder, but I just wanted to throw in some food for thought. Did you buy them from the same person, and specifically as a breeding pair? If so, did they give you any informaion on their background/ancestors? There is the possibility that they could be related, and you would probably want to know how closely or distantly. If there is the chance that the hen's foot issue is genetic, and they are related, then line-breeding them to each other could double up on that fault, and make it hard to get rid of from their descendants. If they are not related, then it could be easier to get rid of the faulty foot gene by keeping any offspring with good feet and culling (selling) any that turn up with bad feet. Maybe that's what the previous breeder has done. Sold off the bad foot offspring to someone else (you). Of course, if it is only from an injury or laziness, as the others have mentioned, then you may not have to worry about it at all. But it still never hurts to find out as much as possible about their backgrounds if you can.
May 3, 201114 yr Author As the others have said...... Light Green Opaline Spangle hen Grey-green spangle cock the hen has all claws forward on her left foot too. Either an injury or an inherited fault. School of thought on these things is its inherited. Both nice looking birds. If the cock is carrying opaline you will end up with opaline chicks and spangle to spangle will give you a 25% chance of double factor spangle babies too. Give them time to settle in Thank you Will her claws being forward affect them when mating?? her claw is like that due to a small ring being placed on her leg i cut the ring off because the leg had began to get swollen Your hen looks like a Light Green Opaline Spangle - similar to my cock Santa. I love that bright green she has! I can't really tell you anything on the show standards side of things as I really have no idea, but I think they are quite good, especially if you're just starting out! Thank you Amy when i first saw her i loved the coloring on her XD HI, I'm not a show breeder, but I just wanted to throw in some food for thought. Did you buy them from the same person, and specifically as a breeding pair? If so, did they give you any informaion on their background/ancestors? There is the possibility that they could be related, and you would probably want to know how closely or distantly. If there is the chance that the hen's foot issue is genetic, and they are related, then line-breeding them to each other could double up on that fault, and make it hard to get rid of from their descendants. If they are not related, then it could be easier to get rid of the faulty foot gene by keeping any offspring with good feet and culling (selling) any that turn up with bad feet. Maybe that's what the previous breeder has done. Sold off the bad foot offspring to someone else (you). Of course, if it is only from an injury or laziness, as the others have mentioned, then you may not have to worry about it at all. But it still never hurts to find out as much as possible about their backgrounds if you can. No i did not buy them from the same person to avoid line breeding them i think that was smart of me in a way The leg is messed up due to the leg ring/band being too small for the bird so i removed it because the leg was beginning to get swollen Thanks for the advice thou really appreciate it Hi, nice birds to start out with, like the others said, light opaline spangle hen and grey green spangle cock. The hen in my view looks better then the cock, but both are good. The hen looks to have more directional feather than the cock but needs much more. her mask is longer, the cocks is shorter, so the hen should fix that. The hen is flecked which is a fault but the cock looks clean so that is good. The hen has spots and the cock doesn't. Like Kaz said the hen has all toes on front of perch but could be a lazy thing going on also. You should breed some handy babies from these two. You do have a chance of getting Df spangles from the mating. Expectations are 25% Double Factor spangles 50% spangles 25% Normals And seems the hen is opaline and the cock could be split for opaline and cinnamon also. You could get opalines and cinnamons in spangles and normals. Thank you for all this information i have high expectations of my birdies hopefully it all goes well and ill be posting pictures up
May 4, 201114 yr The leg is messed up due to the leg ring/band being too small for the bird so i removed it because the leg was beginning to get swollen her claw is like that due to a small ring being placed on her leg i cut the ring off because the leg had began to get swollen Mate ...the legring hasnt anything to do with her foot issue at all. The only time a budgies foot will swell around a legring making it necessary to cut it off is when scaly face mites affect their feet and cause scaly build up under the legring. All legrings put on show budgies are put on at age 5-6 days and are with them for life not affecting them in any way. The sizes are right for them with plenty of room unless they get an issue with scaly. Its not due to ring being too small. Will her claws being forward affect them when mating?? it shouldnt as long as she can grip the perch well enough. Edited May 4, 201114 yr by **KAZ**
May 4, 201114 yr Author The leg is messed up due to the leg ring/band being too small for the bird so i removed it because the leg was beginning to get swollen her claw is like that due to a small ring being placed on her leg i cut the ring off because the leg had began to get swollen Mate ...the legring hasnt anything to do with her foot issue at all. The only time a budgies foot will swell around a legring making it necessary to cut it off is when scaly face mites affect their feet and cause scaly build up under the legring. All legrings put on show budgies are put on at age 5-6 days and are with them for life not affecting them in any way. The sizes are right for them with plenty of room unless they get an issue with scaly. Its not due to ring being too small. Will her claws being forward affect them when mating?? it shouldnt as long as she can grip the perch well enough. I have 2 months with her Ive been treating her for scaly face mites and shes making progress her beak is looking way better now, ill try to post pictures of just her whole leg Ah okay thanks Edited May 4, 201114 yr by The lion
May 9, 201114 yr I had a lovebird born with a toe backwards like your female - It didn't cause her any problems at all Ever - she had several babies and not a single one had a toe issue I've had a baby cockatiel (there was 3 in the clutch) born with the toe issue - his siblings did not have it - caused him no problems - neither parent had it either and none of their babies before or after him has any problems I tried with both the lovebird and the cockatiel to correct it with Physical therapy" since i had both of them at young ages I got the love bird at 2 weeks old and the cockatiel was born here when the lovebird perched on my hand the toe was normal, perched on flat surfaces , Cage top, or any size perch/swing/ladder it was "backwards" the cockatiels was backwards no matter where he perched They both lived fine with it didn't hinder breeding at all and like i said none of their babies was born with it to me it was similar to a human being born with a club foot - Just because they were born with it does not mean their children will be
May 10, 201114 yr Author I had a lovebird born with a toe backwards like your female - It didn't cause her any problems at all Ever - she had several babies and not a single one had a toe issue I've had a baby cockatiel (there was 3 in the clutch) born with the toe issue - his siblings did not have it - caused him no problems - neither parent had it either and none of their babies before or after him has any problems I tried with both the lovebird and the cockatiel to correct it with Physical therapy" since i had both of them at young ages I got the love bird at 2 weeks old and the cockatiel was born here when the lovebird perched on my hand the toe was normal, perched on flat surfaces , Cage top, or any size perch/swing/ladder it was "backwards" the cockatiels was backwards no matter where he perched They both lived fine with it didn't hinder breeding at all and like i said none of their babies was born with it to me it was similar to a human being born with a club foot - Just because they were born with it does not mean their children will be ah okay i guess ill just have to wait and see on the outcome i get with my birdies
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